Military Tests the SCAR

[RONNIE77]

Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota

that's how i read it too.

i doubt you can change calibers just by switching the barrels.

To answer your question, it looks rather easy. and all parts are 82% interchangable from one caliber to the other.
This gun is f@#king awesome..
Check this out...
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/20...id=VIDURVTEC07

[NineseveN]

Originally Posted by Kenshin

The 7.62x39 cartridge is going to be for the SCAR-H (7.62 NATO) the SCAR-L is designed for the 5.56 round.

It would be too easy for them to allow you to use 7.62x39 and 5.56 on the same rifle but I will be happy with a .308 version of the rifle...

7.62 NATO is 7.62x51mm, i.e. .308. 7.62x39mm is the Russian AK-47 round. The SCAR-H is chambered for 7.62x51mm/.308.

Edit: after re-reading, I think you made a typo, not that you meant to say the SCAR-H uses the AK-47 round.

[LittleRedToyota]

Originally Posted by RONNIE77

To answer your question, it looks rather easy. and all parts are 82% interchangable from one caliber to the other.
This gun is f@#king awesome..
Check this out...
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/20...id=VIDURVTEC07

yeah, i wasn't saying it would be difficult to convert the gun from one caliber to the other...just that you would need to swap more than just the barrel.

and, yeah...i realllllllllly want one. definitely looks to be an awesome gun.

[chauncey]

i think all of this barrel-swapping and upper-swapping "during a firefight" is a joke. c'mon, really, under fire you are going to swap your barrel or upper?

leave the barrel swaps for MG's, and swapping gear "back at base" seems much more believable. last thing I'd want to carry around is extra barrels and uppers.

[SaMx]

I also think it's kind of ridiculous to expect people to change barrels or uppers during a firefight.

also, a caliber change would take more than a barrel change, you would probably need to change out the bolt as well.

[Dredly]

The did a demo of a similar gun on FutureWeapons and Mack demonstrated how it would be extremly effective...

basically an escort type scenario... having a long barrel in a car make you useless, him and his men jumped out and quickly secured a small area, essentially CQB type scenario.

They then climbed a building and on the second story he switched the barrels out and added a magnifier to his optics and within a minute he went from CQB to sniper to eliminate incoming threats and guards at a post on the outskirt of the town.

Here is the video... Personally if i had the option between carrying 2 guns, 2 sets of ammo, 2 seperate mags... etc or I could carry a second barrel I'd be thrilled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZpZryZEiY4

(btw this is the HK416 which went up against the SCAR in the competition I believe. Pretty sure it actually scored better on almost all marks however lost due to price and not "american" made?. I think the first barrel is the 10" barrel for CQB and the second is the 19.9" barrel)

[Dredly]

Originally Posted by SaMx

I also think it's kind of ridiculous to expect people to change barrels or uppers during a firefight.

also, a caliber change would take more than a barrel change, you would probably need to change out the bolt as well.

The idea isn't to change it in the middle of a fire fight. Its to make every solider a multi-role weapon and do so extremely effectively.

Right now if you are a sniper or machine gunner thats your role. if you need a clear a building... well you have a pistol right? trying to clear a building with a R700 wouldn't be overly enjoyable I'm thinking... now try it with short barrel M4. now when you get to the spot you are planning on setting up take out your 2 pound barrel and 1 1/2 pound optic, switch them out and you are ready to take that 1000 meter shot to cover your guys

With these new weapons soldiers now serve multi-roles. a sniper is only a sniper when he wants to be, till then he is a boots on the ground CQB grunt.

[RONNIE77]

Originally Posted by Dredly

The idea isn't to change it in the middle of a fire fight. Its to make every solider a multi-role weapon and do so extremely effectively.

Right now if you are a sniper or machine gunner thats your role. if you need a clear a building... well you have a pistol right? trying to clear a building with a R700 wouldn't be overly enjoyable I'm thinking... now try it with short barrel M4. now when you get to the spot you are planning on setting up take out your 2 pound barrel and 1 1/2 pound optic, switch them out and you are ready to take that 1000 meter shot to cover your guys

With these new weapons soldiers now serve multi-roles. a sniper is only a sniper when he wants to be, till then he is a boots on the ground CQB grunt.

I agree, I don't think the idea is having to change your barrel if you are taking fire from cover in the middle of a fight. You have your CQB barrel most of the time, and once you have a clear safe spot from a rooftop or an elevated position, then you can change into a sniper rifle for covering your men from the high ground or eliminate a specific target from long distance. They said one of SOCOM's requirements was the ability to change the barrels when needed. I think their call was answered here.

[Kenshin]

Originally Posted by NineseveN

7.62 NATO is 7.62x51mm, i.e. .308. 7.62x39mm is the Russian AK-47 round. The SCAR-H is chambered for 7.62x51mm/.308.

Edit: after re-reading, I think you made a typo, not that you meant to say the SCAR-H uses the AK-47 round.

Ok yea my post was a little confusing. The SCAR-H which is originally chambered in 7.62 NATO will be able to be converted to 7.62x39 and use AK/AKM mags in the field. That was what i was originally getting at.

[NineseveN]

Originally Posted by Kenshin

Ok yea my post was a little confusing. The SCAR-H which is originally chambered in 7.62 NATO will be able to be converted to 7.62x39 and use AK/AKM mags in the field. That was what i was originally getting at.

Oh yeah, now I get it, you're talking about the conversion...makes total sense now, ignore me.