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Old August 24th, 2008
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Default Re: kind of a research question..

I think you guys are missing the direction im going with this and thats my fault for not explaining more clearly....I not so much trying to debate the "fixed" place of business.

My focus is §6106 A8.

Firearms not to be carried without a license.


(8) Any person while carrying a firearm unloaded and in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair or back to his home or place of business, or in moving from one place of abode or business to another or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section....

when they use the word "moving" I assume they me transporting and not necessarily packing up your things and moving...

But notice the usage of "place of business". This is not the "fixed" place of business that is required to CC as cited in A1.

Then as I highlighted in blue "in moving from one place of abode or business" does not even use the words "place of"

- this leaves me wonder if we Are supposed to accept the broader definitions of business to possibly include some of these... (for example)


6.
a. One's rightful or proper concern or interest: "The business of America is business" Calvin Coolidge.
b. Something involving one personally: It's none of my business.
7. Serious work or endeavor: got right down to business.
8. An affair or matter: "We will proceed no further in this business" Shakespeare.


Accepting or rather proving this definition to the courts, would allow for transport to just about anywhere where u intend to actually use or carry, provided it was "unloaded and in a secure wrapper".

It would give back part of our right to bear arms that has not really been taken, just restricted by not allowing transport of a firearm without a LCTF. (unless your going to the gunsmith, range, etc. etc.)
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Old August 25th, 2008
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Default Re: kind of a research question..

Here's what he's asking:

Should we be treating "his place of abode" and "fixed place of business" with a concentration on "place" or the object that holds the place?

Is 'your place of abode' the place you 'normally reside at' or 'any place that you might take up a residence for at least one night'?

Is a 'fixed place of business' a building that at which you normally work (fixed-place of business), or any place that is well established where you might carry on your affairs (fixed place-of-business)? [or did I mix those two hyphenated versions up?]

I could see electing the 'broad' definition as possible. It's just as possible as electing the 'broad' definition of 'carries in a vehicle' somehow meaning carrying with a vehicle instead of a person carrying inside of a vehicle as they would on foot.

It's unlike, however, that the government wants to make your privilege closer to a right.
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