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Default Legally shipping a hand gun

Here are the facts:

I am only an 03 FFL
I want to ship a non C&R 9mm hand gun to an 02 FFL in Texas

Do I need to go through my 01 FFL?

The BATF site has the following rules but my question is, am I considered a "nonlicensee" since my hand gun is not a C&R or are all FFLs considered licensees? Right now, I'm thinking I need to use my 01 FFL because under the Postal Service rules, they have a form (1508) designed for "Manufacturers or Dealers in Firearms." Any FACTUAL help would be appreciated.

(B7) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?[Back]
A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

(F14) Who may ship handguns through the U.S. Postal Service? [Back]
Federal firearm licensees may send an unloaded handgun in the mail to another FFL in customary trade shipments. Handguns also may be mailed to any officer, employee, agent, or watchman who is eligible under 18 U.S.C. 1715 to receive pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed on the person for use in connection with his or her official duties.
However, postal service regulations must be followed. Any person proposing to mail a handgun must file with the postmaster, at the time of mailing, an affidavit signed by the addressee stating that the addressee is qualified to receive the firearm, and the affidavit must bear a certificate stating that the firearm is for the official use of the addressee. See the current Postal Manual for details.
The Postal Service recommends that all firearms be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. (See also Questions B7 and B8.)
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Default Re: Legally shipping a hand gun

you can box it up and send it by common carrier just like anybody else .(UPS/Fedex, etc)

you have to be a FFL to use the US MAIL, 03 is C&R right? If so, the USPS can only mail handguns from a FFL DEALER or a Manufacturer.

the C&R does not qualify as a dealer license to sell firearms, so you cannot use the US Mail, but can use the other carriers.
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you can box it up and send it by common carrier just like anybody else .(UPS/Fedex, etc)

you have to be a FFL to use the US MAIL, 03 is C&R right? If so, the USPS can only mail handguns from a FFL DEALER or a Manufacturer.

the C&R does not qualify as a dealer license to sell firearms, so you cannot use the US Mail, but can use the other carriers.
Thanks. That is how I interpreted it too. The confusion was with the term "licensee" and then seeing that USPS only allows manufacturers or dealers. That made me question whether or not the reference to licensee was meant for those classes only. It appears to just be the USPS policy.

Is there any special requirements when shipping to an 02 FFL? (Pawn Broker?) I have their license e-mailed signed copy.
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You should be ok as a pawnbroker is authorized to sell guns.
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Default Re: Legally shipping a hand gun

nothing special required, just keep the shipping receipt and license copy for your own records in case th handgiun is used in a crime, and they do a trace.

traces go from manufacturer/importer, to distributor, to FFL shop, to buyer to buyer to buyer down the line til they get to the last person.

as for shipping, pack it SECURELY and send it the fastest way possible, with full insurance.

less time in the system = less time to get stolen, and fast + insurance = good tracking.
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