XDsc or M&Psc for carry gun.

[RONNIE77]

As far as something happening to your gun in the long run, is entirely unpredictable. Don't think that if you get an XD or Glock that you are safe.
It is mechanical, so anything can happen at anytime, regardless of who made it and what their track records are.

I have an XD and a M&P, and for me to decide is difficult.
Because one is a .45 and one is a 9, so it makes them both totally different.
However I have not ever had a problem with either of them.
I have had the XD longer, but fire the M&P more. And they haven't failed me yet.
Both are great guns, and whatever decision you make is going to be the right one. Good luck.

[Asterix909]

Originally Posted by P-11 shooter

XD9sc
Pros

* super badass gun that can take a lifetime shooting
* it's made by springfeild armory.
* fits my hand way better than glock
* I can use my brothers mags
* I can get .40 mags and adjust the feed lips for a 13+1 capacity
* comes with "quality" gear

really?
I thought Springfield just imported them from Croatia

[Mity2]

Originally Posted by P-11 shooter

* it's made by springfeild armory.

Just so you know, XD is not made by Springfield armory. XD's are manufactured in the city of Karlovac, Croatia by HS Produkt (formerly I.M. Metal), and ONLY licensed and sold in the US by Springfield Armory.
Original version is called HS-2000(http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg48-e.htm)

And you have missed 4 more cons of XD, which I think are worth mentioning...

*Eventho some parts can be purchased through aftermarket suppliers, Springfield Armory basically refuses to sell some individual XD parts.

*Anyone who tried installing after-market or custom sights on XD's knows that removing the existing sights can be a difficult, if not impossible, process, often requiring the services of a gunsmith(and even some gunsmith can't find way to remove sight without braking it). So it makes sense just buy one with nightsight already on it to save a headache. But naturally, night sighted model cost more then none night sight model

*Pre-2006 versions of the XD were protected with a metal treatment called Bruniral. Some who own pistols with the Bruniral treatment have reported various degree of rust problems. Enough rust issues that XDforum.com made specific sub forum called "rusty tales"(http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/rusty-tales/)...

*XD usualy hold less rounds then M&P. i.e. M&P9C holds 12+1, XD9SC holds 10+1, M&P40C holds 10+1, XD40SC hold 9+1). Ofcourse, with XD, you can get mag extention to hold more rounds, but then grip size becomes same size as service model. Which defeats the purpose of SubCompact, and M&P full size(which is same size as XD service model in slide length and grip length) would still hold more round then XD. XD do holds more round in .45ACP in service/tactical size


Now with that being said, M&P is not foult free either. biggest one (to me)being trigger is mushy, and reset are longer then XD(And I've never noticed this until I bought my XD! LOL). M&P compact does not comes in .45ACP, and M&P compact comes any color of your choice, as long as choice of color is black/black. you can get them in several color/finish combinations with XD(black/black, black/silver, Green/silver, earth/silver, etc..)


I have both M&P(M&P9) and XD(XD9Service), and I like them both.
I'm little bit better in term of accuracy and handling of gun, because I've had M&P alot longer then XD, but XD is no sub par either.
Its accurate, and trigger feels much better to me, and fit and finish are much better then that of my M&P.
And one other thing I've recently noticed about XD which I don't care for too much is that XD's slide ride on front metal locking block, and plastic block on rear, where as M&P rides on both front and rear steel locking block.
Now, it may never have issues with it. But to locking block being high stress area, I think I prefer steel over plastic.
But biggest thing about M&P is that it comes with replacable grip insert. I have smallish hand, and being able to make grip smaller still is biggest selling point to me.


So in the end, they are 2 pees in the same pot. Get one that fits your hand the best.

or wait until XD-M comes out with subcompact in future..
XD-M subcompact with its all bells and whistles and cmabered in .45ACP with SS slide? Yep I'm sold!

[Michele]

I'm going to say M&P because, i'm afraid you'll get a Pink XD just to copy me.

And there should only be one Pink XD.......MINE!!!






Whatever you decide to buy, be safe!

[Kaos]

As far as installing sights go on the XD...

mine took me 15 minutes with a hammer and a punch. The OLDER models had a hard time, the newer onces haven't. I've done two sets now.

Nuff said.

[P-11 shooter]

Originally Posted by crakkajakka15

ummmm.... Smith and Wesson M&P 2007 handgun of the year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiMZfYkK3Qs


I love my M&P9c

Yeah, they are sweet guns.

Right now 'm nooking into some of the problems they may have had. Things like FTF's and mags dropping while carried. That said noboby here who owns one has had anything bad to say about them, and most have been jumping up and down telling me how awsome they are.

It certianly fits my hand better, and is less blocky. I like the fact that XD mags are cheaper and easier to find.

Yes, the XD holds less rounds but you can buy a .40 mag and crimp the feed lips for a 13+1 capacity that is flush mount. Plus I can use my brothers mags.

This is really tough. Problem is I want to buy one before the next group shoot so I won't be able to shoot them side by side. I've handled both alot so there are no surpirses. I just have to make up my damn mind.

[Noah_Zark]

Originally Posted by Mity2

. . . *Pre-2006 versions of the XD were protected with a metal treatment called Bruniral. Some who own pistols with the Bruniral treatment have reported various degree of rust problems. Enough rust issues that XDforum.com made specific sub forum called "rusty tales"(http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/rusty-tales/)...

Bruniral is a fancy word for manganese phosphate. And all the hype about "Bruniral" being all high-tech and whatnot caused a lot of HS-2000 and early XD owners to not do the one thing that phosphate finishes require in order to protect the underlying steel substrate -- APPLY OIL, and lots of it.

My own HS-2000 repeatedy rusted in certain spots on the slide until I started to apply Corrosion-X. End of rust problem.

The newer XDs have a hot salt bath nitride finish (Melonite) that imparts significant lubricity and wear resistance, and has good intrinsic corrosion resistance. It's a big step up from "Bruniral."

Noah

[Shawn.L]

I think the diff between the two will mainly be personal preferance.

Springfields lifetime warranty is attractive though, not sure what SW has but thats a +1 on the xd

how about more choices?
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/16480

[P-11 shooter]

Originally Posted by Shawn.L

I think the diff between the two will mainly be personal preferance.

Springfields lifetime warranty is attractive though, not sure what SW has but thats a +1 on the xd

how about more choices?
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/16480

They have a lifetime warantee as well. I heard they had some problems early on, but have worked them out. Such as the mags dropping and slides locking back in the middle of fire. I've heard varryng trigger pulls coming from the factory which makes you question their QC. Plus with the XD it's easier to find mags and they are cheaper. Not to mention I could use my bro's mags to run the house.

But I still like the M&P better.

[Shawn.L]

I had thought you where set on a Para ?