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Default tap-rack-bang explained

I asked the question on another forum and got this response among others. This little video explains the drill so even I can understand it. Hope it helps others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfyULpEhmug
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That was great , havent seen that yet , Thanx!!
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Very nice! Led me to many other informative video's from FMG & Thunder Ranch on You Tube.
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Default Re: tap-rack-bang explained

I was taught Tap Rack Roll (twisting the pistol hard to the side to throw brass out of the ejection port. Trigger finger is on the index during this function.
The Bang is a separate decision not integrated with Tap Rack as the Bang may not be appropriate as threat may be over.....

Your booger picker only goes on the bang switch when threat is there
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The Bang is a separate decision not integrated with Tap Rack as the Bang may not be appropriate as threat may be over.....
It's evolved into "Tap - Rack - Reassess".
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I asked the question on another forum and got this response among others. This little video explains the drill so even I can understand it. Hope it helps others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfyULpEhmug
Excellent, just added as a bookmark.
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Thanx for the video. I have seen it B4 but, I love to refresh myself. thanx Joe
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I was taught Tap Rack Roll (twisting the pistol hard to the side to throw brass out of the ejection port. Trigger finger is on the index during this function.
The Bang is a separate decision not integrated with Tap Rack as the Bang may not be appropriate as threat may be over.....

Your booger picker only goes on the bang switch when threat is there
I've heard that before...but I just don't get it. If you pulled the trigger, you wanted to shoot....if you wanted to shoot, what's changed in the second where you were fixing the gun? My bet is more often that not, you need to get that shot off immediately, as your gun was just taken out of the fight and the threat has just been given the opportunity to take the initiative.

I understand the point they're getting at...but I just don't see how the application of this ideology benefits the shooter.

Once the gun is fixed, get your front sight back on the target...if the person is still standing and doesn't have their hands up, then they probably still deserve the bullet you intended to give them a moment ago. If they're complying, then you should see their arms out to the sides of your front sight...no different than when you had the gun on them and pulled the trigger only to get a click, a moment ago.

Essentially, I think the fact that you are getting your sights back on the target is a concept ignored by the crowd that has a problem with "tap rack bang". No-one advocates "re-assessing" between each shot fired at a threat...the universal response is to shoot until the threat has given up or is on the ground. This is THE reason schools have gotten away from "double taps" and artificially limiting the number of rounds put on a threat....when you pause in the action and try to assess what your bullets have done, you're inviting return fire, and you've let up on your attack....this is how good guys die. It's no surprise that "violence of action" or "overwhelming your attacker with violence" is a key ingredient to the success of small teams in gunfights (SWAT, SEAL's, Rangers, SF, Delta, etc...)

Why should we try and program shooters to do this AFTER they've just had their weapon taken out of the fight, and ALREADY been put further behind the curve...considering we're talking about civilians who 99% of the time are reacting to an assault/ ambush, anyway?

I'm no gunslinger, and haven't had to shoot anyone....so maybe I'm out of my lane....so if there's anyone who've been in that situation before, I'm all ears. But of everyone I know who's put bad-guys in the ground...each one has said "shoot that motherf***er till they hit the ground or you go to slidelock" or words to that effect. "Re-assessing" after your gun just went click instead of bang just seems like your giving your opponent that much more opportunity to kill you. You already need to put your front sight back on that target...which puts you right back to the same spot you'd be after your first shot broke, and you're reseting the trigger for the second shot (or whatever shot # it is in the fight)

I hope this spawns some useful discussion, cause my interest has been peaked!
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I've heard that before...but I just don't get it.

I hope this spawns some useful discussion, cause my interest has been peaked!
It's not a "one size fits all" issue.

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The Bang is a separate decision not integrated with Tap Rack as the Bang may not be appropriate as threat may be over.....
The bold is what lprgcFrank and I were addressing.
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Default Re: tap-rack-bang explained

I am thinking that using snap caps at random in my mags at the range would be a good way to practice this. A friend can load them.
But, what is a good way to practice the double feed without it being set up that you know what it is going into it?
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