Absolutely sickening...

[Dredly]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/14/....ap/index.html - Another reason to always be smart about home security and always be ready to act

[Bmarshall91]

Originally Posted by SOME PERSON FROM THE NEWS

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- The father of two children murdered and another sexually assaulted by a convicted sex offender testified at the killer's federal death-penalty hearing Thursday, showing pictures of his youngest children and choking up after confirming their handwriting on notes apparently written at their kidnapper's behest.Steven Groene said it was the first time he had seen one of the letters, which offered a false promise. "I have good news we will be home soon," it read, "maybe in a week or 2."

Joseph Edward Duncan III pleaded guilty in December to 10 federal charges in the 2005 kidnappings of Dylan and Shasta Groene, and the slaying of Dylan.

A federal jury is determining whether he should be put to death or spend life in prison without parole.

Earlier, Duncan pleaded guilty in state court to murdering the children's older brother, their mother and the mother's fiance during the attack at the family's Coeur d'Alene home. Prosecutors say he killed the three to kidnap and sexually brutalize Dylan, 9, and Shasta, then 8.

As their father testified, the letters from Dylan and Shasta flashed on a screen only briefly, and prosecutors avoided discussing the contents. But they're likely to be the letters found in the car Duncan was driving just before he was arrested with Shasta in a Coeur d'Alene restaurant weeks after the kidnapping.

Excerpts suggest Duncan directed the children to write them.

"Dear dad, I miss you very much. Me and Dylan know what happened," to their slain family members, one letter from Shasta read.

"I'm sorry you had to lose a son and an ex-wife and I'm sorry we were taken from you ... We are still alive and we are ok," read another.

After testifying about the identities of his children and confirming their handwriting, Groene stepped down, visibly choked up by the evidence. Duncan, who is representing himself, did not question him.

In May 2005, Duncan went to Idaho, broke into the home and bludgeoned 13-year-old Slade Groene, his mother, Brenda Groene, and her fiance, Mark McKenzie, before abducting Shasta and Dylan and taking them to a remote campsite and other locations in Montana. After sexually traumatizing the children for weeks, Duncan killed Dylan in front of his little sister and burned his body.

Former Kootenai County Deputy Dale Moyer, now a deputy in Spokane County, Washington, was the first prosecution witness Thursday.

He knew the family from previous calls to the house, and because when the children were playing in their front yard, they would sometimes wave him down as he drove by.

"The younger girl wanted stickers," the kind featuring law enforcement insignias, Moyer said. "And the 9-year-old, he wanted to talk about guns."

On the evening of May 16, 2005, Moyer was dispatched after the Sheriff's Department got a call asking them to go to the house.

As he approached the front door, he noticed blood on the porch and door, Moyer said.

While waiting for the other deputies to arrive, Moyer walked around the building and looked through a window. He could hear dogs barking inside and could see blood on a wall inside the home.

"There was an odor ... of carnage and carnage smells," Moyer said. "There was a definite odor."

After other deputies arrived, Moyer said he went inside, finding the three bodies and realizing that Shasta and Dylan were missing.

During opening statements Wednesday, U.S. Attorney Tom Moss characterized Duncan as a cold, calculating killer and pedophile who terrorized the family because he wanted to "live out his fantasy" and exact revenge on society for perceived wrongs. Moss also said Duncan carefully researched police investigation procedures and took steps to avoid getting caught.

During his brief statement, Duncan told the jury that most of what Moss said was fair and accurate "up to the point of what occurred at the campground."

He said he would testify so he could try to "clarify things."

His standby legal counsel, Judy Clarke, has said Duncan doesn't plan to offer any mitigation, such as evidence of his own traumatic childhood.

Duncan's past is littered with arrests and prison time for crimes ranging from car theft to rape and molestation. He is suspected in the 1996 slayings of two half-sisters from Seattle, Washington, and is charged with the 1997 killing of a young boy in Riverside County, California.

The sentencing hearing is expected to last up to six weeks.

.......................WOW. just wow. To imagine anyone has the capacity to do such a thing.... boggles the mind.

[Qtrborecrazy]

Go figure they have to debate whether or not this scum sucking bottom feeder should DIE? Molest 2 children and kill one NO BRAINER YOU IDIOTS!

Qtrborecrazy

[1861]

AND THERE ARE STILL ANTI DEATH PENALTY PROPONENTS AROUND ??

[adymond]

Originally Posted by 1861

AND THERE ARE STILL ANTI DEATH PENALTY PROPONENTS AROUND ??

+1. Nothing to add.

[Gallo]

This is reality. There are many mingling with society whose only purpose is to cause pain and suffering on others.

This is the reason why I decided that I and my own will not be easy prey and victims to the twisted desires of those who on an opportunity will do the same to you and yours.

Whether this family had or did not have a firearm is not mentioned, and really has no further bearing on this specific situation. Your place of residence also does not matter. Whether in a big city or a small town, tragedy at the hands of these type of animals can occur.

Our responsibility, NO, our DUTY, is to be prepared to protect our families from this occuring to them. Your family should NOT depend on a police officer to protect them in your home, unless you or your spouse works as an LEO. The criminal element who enters your home should feel the full extent of the law which has equipped you with the right to protect your castle.

Do not allow your family to be the topic of a similar article in the future. Stand ready to pass sentence on anyone who places your family in harms way. Plan and practice with your family on what to do, and what not to do, if someone invades your home. Add it to your fire drills.

This story is truly disturbing. However, it should increase our awareness and preparation in order to avoid becoming the next the victims at the hands of these animals.

[jsb889]

Our justice system serves no justice.

Duncan's past is littered with arrests and prison time for crimes ranging from car theft to rape and molestation. He is suspected in the 1996 slayings of two half-sisters from Seattle, Washington, and is charged with the 1997 killing of a young boy in Riverside County, California.

Why is he out? Look at his record. This guy should have never seen light again. Charged with rape, molestation, and then a murder of a child. Yet...hes out 10 years later.

I really cannot comprehend how people can do these things to one another. I really can't.

I wish people would realize these kind of things can strike them. Its read in the papers because it happened to someone...nobody is protected from it. Be prepared. It might save your family from having this done to them one day.

[w1cked]

Thank the idiotic judicial system. They rather convict Marines for self defense than these animals. This is gonna piss me off all morning.

[Sharpshooter9x19]

Originally Posted by w1cked

Thank the idiotic judicial system. They rather convict Marines for self defense than these animals. This is gonna piss me off all morning.

Well Put. Semper Fi & I hope that pedophile's gonna FRY! Almost not worth the 10 cent solution....almost

[Tootie]

I am dumbfounded by the legal system that let him out to harm more people. I am so disgusted by this persons act that I have no words to describe how I feel.