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You all forget abbout tthe other 500 who work at the plant.
you are forgetting that it was not tyson that made this decision, but the union that represents those other 500 workers as well.

if you want to boycott anyone, you should boycott the union.
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It's not about the union, it's about the path Ammerican commerce is headed.
this particular story is absolutely, 100%, completely about the union...and nothing else.

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This rush of Hispanics creates entrepreneurial opportunities.
1995 – 1998.
Leaving the employ of Tyson, Amador opens in Shelbyville a grocery, Los Tres Hermanos, He begins to sell fake social security cards and other fake documents. Two local police officers take notice. They contact the INS in 1997, who buy undercover fake IDs at the store. Amador is confronted, and agrees to work with INS officials. At a meeting in 1998 in the Tyson plant, Amador and an undercover agent are asked by a Tyson manager to provide 2,000 Guatemalian workers, and Amador is offered up to $200 per head as a “recruitment fee.”
http://www.workingimmigrants.com/200...al_immigr.html
and this is relevant how? a criminal happened to work for tyson before beginning his criminal enterprise? BFD...that could be said of just about every company the size of tyson.

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An estimated 750 to 1,000 Somali refugees are living in Emporia, a magnet because of jobs at the Tyson Foods meatpacking plant. Many have latent tuberculosis.
so what? there have been many waves of immigrants of various nationalities to the united states...given that they nearly all consisted of the poorest segment of the (poor) societies from which they came, i'll bet there were high incidence rates of various diseases in just about all of them.

i guess you would prefer to have left these people in somalia to be slaughtered by the one warlord we didn't disarm? you do know what we did in somalia right? we went in and disarmed all the various warring factions except one--the most brutal one...not that we didn't try to disarm him, too, but we (not the military people actually doing the job, but the american people) got queasy stomachs and pulled out before the job was done. that left that one brutal warlord to slaughter all the now defensless people.

also, any american who opposes *legal* immigration and is not a decendent of native americans is a hypocrit--because we are all the offspring of immigrants, whether you like it or not.

immigrants are not destroying america any more than the jews were destroying germany prior to the rise of hitler. and, frankly, if you study the rise of hitler, you will be disgusted by the parallels you will see to the anti-legal-immigrant movement in america today.

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I never said Mexican, you did.
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Well what the HELL!
Let's give them Cinco de Mayo off too since the other 500 employees are illegal aliens from Latin America!
perhaps you didn't say 'mexican' exactly, but mexicans are latin americans, and cinco de mayo is mainly associated with mexico, though many hispanic people, including caribbeans, celebrate it.

if you don't like tyson's chicken, don't eat it. if you want to boycott them because of their corporate decisions, that's good. i'm doing the same right now to Penn Security Bank. but please, don't turn this into an anti-immigrant thread.
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Not Mexican chicken pluckers, they are Somali immigrants. Somali workers packing chicken. That doesn't sound appetizing considering their personal hygiene habits. I wonder how much money Tyson saves by not having to buy toilet paper for these people?

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i think Springfield should kick Shelbyville's ass.
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I have to chime in here and say, for the first time I am actually disappointed with some people on this site! I don't understand when this country and government became a strictly christian entity....anyone remember the "Separation of Church and State"? To boycott a company because it catered to the majority of its employees...perhaps you should head off to a socialist country and enjoy their privledges...and the comment a few above me with the toilet paper remark...sorry to say, but you sound like an idiot. It is a work environment like anywhere else...have you ever been to an USDA inspected plant?? There is an inspector in the building anytime operations are running...there for it is as clean as any other food plant!!
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[color=#191970][b]It's not about the union [snip]
No, you're right, at this point, it's about you being a total fucking racist and being a coward about it, hiding being arguments over losing your drywall business, or security and terrorism, and now the downfall of American commerce. Give me a fucking break.

It's your right to hate all you want, but at least grow some sack and man up to it. You've consistently posted these kinds of things about various minorities, and after a while, the trend you've established illuminates the agenda behind it all.


As for the factual nature of the argument, it's already been settled, this was a union decision, the majority voted and that's the way the union works. Calling to boycott Tyson had nothing to do with this directly, it had to do with the fact that they employ Muslims, which is apparently on your list of undesirables. Either that or you can't be bothered to read the shit you post because the alarming headline readily conforms to your agenda. Either way, it's fucking weak.

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No, you're right, at this point, it's about you being a total fucking racist and being coward about it, hiding being arguments over losing your drywall business, or security and terrorism, and now the downfall of American commerce. Give me a fucking break.

It's your right to hate all you want, but at least grow some sack and man up to it. You've consistently posted these kinds of things about various minorities, and after a while, the trend you've established illuminates the agenda behind it all.


As for the factual nature of the argument, it's already been settled, this was a union decision, the majority voted and that's the way the union works. Calling to boycott Tyson had nothing to do with this directly, it had to do with the fact that they employ Muslims, which is apparently on your list of undesirables. Either that or you can't be bothered to read the shit you post because the alarming headline readily conforms to your agenda. Either way, it's fucking weak.
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"Lastly, so what if they were Mexican "
I never said Mexican, you did.
I know jahwarrior already addressed this, but since the comment was directed at me I feel obligated to respond.

You REALLY have to be kidding me with your shenanigans. Before you start spouting off, you should learn a little about what you're saying. You're absolutely correct that you didn't specifically say Mexican and I did. As a reminder:

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Let's give them Cinco de Mayo off too since the other 500 employees are illegal aliens from Latin America!
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Lastly, so what if they were Mexican and wanted off Cinco de Mayo?
However, your statement infers that you're talking about Mexicans, whether you realize it or not, because Cinco de Mayo is a Mexican holiday. See here (emphasis by me):

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Cinco de Mayo (Spanish for "5th of May") is a regional holiday in Mexico, primarily celebrated in the state of Puebla. It is not an obligatory federal holiday. The holiday commemorates an initial victory of Mexican forces led by General Ignacio Zaragoza over French forces in the Battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862. The date is observed in the United States and other locations around the world as a celebration of Mexican heritage and pride.
The reason I made reference to Mexicans is because YOU made reference to a Mexican holiday, and by your statements obviously you didn't even realize it.

Please don't infer that I'm making stereotypical blanket remarks until you check your own words.
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I just have to chime in here also. If the union is made up of a majority that seeks a specific religious holiday so be it. So long as the minority is not forced to observe that holiday IMO. They can have it as a day off with pay, but you can not then force them to refrain from eating pork because it is dirty in the mind of the other employees. Rule of the majority without opression of the minority. Kind of an important issue. Also I understand the frusteration around ILLEGAL immigration. It is wrong and should not be tolerated. We have a process, millions of people have followed that process. There should be no back door. If you want to come here do it the right way otherwise get out. This country was founded by immigrants, but that does not mean we should not have borders that are enforced. I feel like there are a few issues that have been brought up here that may be getting glossed over because of the hostility (not saying it is unwarnted) between our members. Anti-illegal immigrent is not anti-immigrent.
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