Another LTCF shooting!

[crakkajakka15]

WOW where to begin. So there two men charged this guy at 5am. I think this guy acted accordingly. Plus they found a tec9....any person walking around the street with a tec 9 isnt usually doing anything good so to speak.


I bet we hear the mother of the fallen victim on TV asking for this guy head on a platter!!! Then she will take her criminal son and use him as leverage to be one of those anti-gun activists.

I hope everything works out for this LTCF holder. Hard to believe his job was cool with him carrying. I think he acted appropriately.

[Bruce]

"Neither of the suspects knew he [the manager] was armed."

This is a terrible shame.

I feel just awful for this manager

He now has to live with what he had to do to save his own life.

Maybe if these stupid punks knew that they may be shot, they'd have decided not to attempt the 'job' that morning.

I know, I know... There are always a lot of 'what ifs' and such with a story like this...

I just can't help but believe that these darned punks wouldn't be so bold if they knew full well they might be the one to get shot!

Most violent criminals are really cowards at heart; they don't want a 'fair fight'. They don't even want the chance of a 'fair fight'. They never, ever want the chance that they might lose the 'upper hand'. Which is one reason, I believe, that there is so much violent crime in those areas where law-abiding citizens have been disarmed.

As terrible as it sounds, maybe some other punk will hear about this story and think twice before trying to pull any sort of similar 'job'. As unfortunate as this story is, I think that this is the perfect example (and the only sort of example) of how allowing CC works to reduce crime - the punks will now think twice even though they don't see a gun.

That poor manager.
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[Pont319]

The company employs 14 people, including a team of drivers who carry cash to local junkyards to buy batteries. The firm reconditions the batteries for resale. Roads said employees for the firm have been robbed at least five times in its 10 years of existence.

Finally +1 for the good side. Way to stand your ground.

Gets my vote for Employee of the Month.

[JayBell]

threads merged, lets check the forums before posting news articles multiple times.

thanks!

[PisnNapalm]

"At this point it appears to be a robbery gone bad. We have no indication that it is any more than an attempted robbery."

Wait a minute... A robbery can go good? Seems to me like this robbery attempt went just fine.

[GunLawyer001]

It's the only proven way to prevent recidivism. With limited exceptions, our society does nothing to make crime sufficiently unattractive. We coddle juvenile criminals, teaching them that our concern is more about how to help them become better people than to punish them so harshly that they are afraid to commit more crimes. That lesson usually is taught from age 13 or so until they hit 18, then we make sure that each crime that we catch them at is punished lightly enough that it seems proportionate to the crime.

If we fined shoplifters the value of the stolen goods each time that we caught them, nobody would stop shoplifting, because they don't get caught every time. The same principle applies to all crimes, since we solve relatively few major crimes, and pretty much none of the minor ones.

What we need is disproportionate punishment. Make criminals afraid to be caught committing crimes, make punishment a life-altering horror that makes criminals wake at 3 AM screaming in fear. Shooting them dead when caught in flagrante delicto is another option that works. Lopping off hands for theft results in almost no theft in some sandy nations, so they aren't all bad.

[HiredGoon]

Well one thing, I think that will help the LTCF holder here is that two men were about to attack him...obviously more of a threat than one man. Re-enforcing his need to use deadly force. Hope he does not face any charges nor a civil suit.

Bet the guy that got away needed a change of pants fairly quickly! Hope he is caught soon.

Of course we hope other BGs will learn from this, but unfortunately they will not

Very fast and level-headed thinking on the part of the victim here...leaving the alarm on, drawing and firing.

[er2006]

Originally Posted by deputy

Can someone explain to me what a "sucking chest wound" is. Is it more of a fatal wound?

A sucking chest wound is one where the lung is trying to get air in and out. you get a sucking sound or a wheezing sound. there are more informed people on this forum who can give a better and more medically correct description of this type of wound . All wounds are ugly and if infection sets in they become worse. It is not always fatal , but that depends on location of the shot and also how close (time) you are to a medical facility.

Ed

[er2006]

I find it disturbing that the would be robber was carrying a Tec-9 . It appears that the bad guys are escalating the crime scenarios. At one time they carried Saturday night specials .

The employee seemed to have had situational awareness and used his best judgement.

The employee must have practised a LOT to be able to get out two shots in (i guess quick succession) .


I am glad that the employee is safe .

He will probably relive this many times in the future. I hope this experience does not haunt him .


I thank God that the employee is safe and his family is safe and he will be able to provide for them in the future.


Ed

[Asmodeus6]

I think we are all too quick to jump on the bad gun / good gun bandwagon in this instance. Saying "he had a tec 9" means, he was up to no good... I think is silly. Because it could be easily "fill in the blanked" with another weapon. And used to promote the disarming or further restrictions put on law abiding gun owners. That's very close to saying... anyone with a tec 9 is a robber, or gang member...

It is simply a bad guy had "a" gun. And a good guy had one too and was prepared to preserve his own life / well being. Bad guy loses. We all win.