Pennsylvania lawsuit tests high court's ruling that lifts D.C. gun ban

[Elmar]

Count me is with the "minority" on this.

[Penguini66]

Originally Posted by jfrommbg

I hope they rule against him. IMHO convicted Felons should not have guns. Call me crazy but I wouldn't want armed convicted felons living in my neighborhood.

Call me crazy but I wouldn't want a convicted felon that I wouldn't trust with a gun to be living in my neighborhood. Point being, if they are that much of a danger to society, leave them in jail. If they are truly "reformed" or have "learned their lesson" or have "paid their debt to society", then they should have ALL of their rights restored upon release.

IMHO, this is the fundamental flaw in the system. They let people out of jail that they obviously don't trust with a gun. But we all know they can and will just go an buy a gun on the black market. So should we let them out in the first place?

If we don't trust somebody with a gun, should we also not trust them with a butcher knife? Should felons not be allowed to buy butcher knives? Or baseball bats, etc...

[jfrommbg]

Originally Posted by Autonomous

Yea I have to say I agree with this...
I was bracing myself for a thread full of people who ranted and raved about how felons should never own guns post conviction....
This is one of the many reasons I like this forum...

And one of the reasons I am leaving this forum. If I am the only person on here that thinks arming felons is crazy then this isn't the place for me. Later.

[Kenshin]

Originally Posted by jfrommbg

And one of the reasons I am leaving this forum. If I am the only person on here that thinks arming felons is crazy then this isn't the place for me. Later.

The felons can arm themselves anyways (in some states easier than law abiding citizens) so whats the harm in allowing them to legally acquire them after they have done their time??? I have to side with the "minority" on this issue. The capital crimes should be the only felonies.

[ThoughtCriminal]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,..........


If we recognize that our rights come from our "Creator", how can gov't remove these rights? THEY CAN'T! Once you are out of the gov't institution the gov't can no longer restrict your rights.

[Bmaninmifco]

Originally Posted by ThoughtCriminal

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,..........


If we recognize that our rights come from our "Creator", how can gov't remove these rights? THEY CAN'T! Once you are out of the gov't institution the gov't can no longer restrict your rights.

Can't really say it any better than that.
rep forthcoming

[Bmaninmifco]

Originally Posted by jfrommbg

And one of the reasons I am leaving this forum. If I am the only person on here that thinks arming felons is crazy then this isn't the place for me. Later.

You sir need to learn what a discussion is.
What you have just said is the equivalant of a 8 year old getting mad over a disagreement and saying that's it "I'm taking my ball and going home".
Did you expect a forum that supports the 2nd Amendment as well as the the whole Bill of Rights to agree that all felons should lose their rights.
One DQ offense is intimidation which basically means you threaten to kick someones ass. Are you telling me you never said you were going to kick someones ass and because of that you should now lose your rights forever?
I do not mean that you actually did it, but that you said you were going to.

[Falcon118]

With the minority. I'm wathcing and praying for the correct outcome.

[awkx]

Unless the state assumes responsibility for a reformed felon's security, then it seems cruel and unusual punishment to forbid him from keeping firearms for personal protection in his own home.

[The Drew]

Originally Posted by jfrommbg

And one of the reasons I am leaving this forum. If I am the only person on here that thinks arming felons is crazy then this isn't the place for me. Later.

You can't have your cake and eat it too... You can't have the second amendment be absolute and at the same time have certain select people that are exempted from it's protection...

Criminals and Felons are not necessarily the same thing. If a Felon has served his time and is on a good path, then you MUST fully restore his rights. OTOH if a Felon is still a criminal then no felon in posession law is going to stop him from getting and carrying a gun illegally...

You must first admit that felon in posession laws do NOT keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Rather they make it illegal for those in the minority who are trying to rehabilitate to protect themselves with the proper equipment.

Nobody wants to arm criminals... But you must admit that they're armed DESPITE laws to the contrary so what good do those laws do?