PCN-TV Pennsylvania's Gun Laws debate 5-19-08

[stephpd]

Originally Posted by unloved

Did you see fear in his eyes or was it just me?

I'm pretty sure that if the camrea had panned back we might have seen a wet spot.

I can't stop laughing with that last quote. I swear that brought tears to my eyes. Having a hard time typing.

Ran out of smilies.

[LittleRedToyota]

i tried to call in, but kept getting a busy signal.

i wanted to respond to joe grace's question about why people should have "assault weapons" and explain to him that those are exactly the kinds of weapons the 2nd amendment is all about and why (though knowing me they would have had to cut me off after the first 5 minutes )

i also wanted to point out to him that it is very telling that kim stolfer wants to talk about actual empirical evidence and he does not (prefering instead to talk about "intuitive" and "common sense").

great job kim.

[unloved]

Originally Posted by stephpd

I know the FBI crime reports will help us. They give 78% of gun crimes by people with prior felonies

Absolutely correct. The Uniform Crime Report is on our side(the side of reasonable common sense)we've got to to get those numbers out there more often. Mr. Stolfer did an excellent job but it would have been great to call Grace on" we're not talking about a ban here".I know I couldn't have been nearly as effective myself though.

[unloved]

Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota

i wanted to respond to joe grace's question about why people should have "assault weapons" and explain to him that those are exactly the kinds of weapons the 2nd amendment is all about and why

i also wanted to point out to him that it is very telling that kim stolfer wants to talk about actual empirical evidence and he does not.

Excellent points! "Bluster bluster hmmmphh,wellll we have studies too!"
What a joke.

[fingers80002]

I was going to use the LA riots as a reason to own "assault wepaons".
There were store owners protecting thier stores with ak's!!!!!!

[unloved]

Originally Posted by fingers80002

I was going to use the LA riots as a reason to own "assault wepaons".
There were store owners protecting thier stores with ak's!!!!!!

I had the same thought, couldn't get through thoug

[Montanya]

I have the same reasons for wanting those kinds of weapons that the police have. I don't want to be outgunned by criminals when I am defending my home and my property. Gun control laws don't stop them from getting them, it just under-guns me and the law abiding citizens.

Police want higher firepower to defend themselves against criminals, let the 2nd do what it was intended to, allow people to defend themselves, both against criminals and the tyrants wrapped in the American flag coming to take my guns away.

[stephpd]

Originally Posted by unloved

Excellent points! "Bluster bluster hmmmphh,wellll we have studies too!"
What a joke.

United Nations has the report on the rising rates of crime in England and Australia after their gun bans.All area's of crime went up much faster and may have passed us per capita.

Make that guy argue the facts.

The 'common sense' quote really bothered me as well. Denigrating a true patriots book when he was lacking.

[unloved]

Grace's repeating "we respect the rights of hunters and sportsmen" is an ominous view into the anti-rights crowd's strategy. Divide and conquer...

[dirtybug]

I taped the show and am watching it now but cant stop checking this thread, its like hearing the score to a big game before watching it!