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Default Re: Lynne Abraham to Michael Nutter: Gun Laws Unconstitutional, Will Not Enforce

well i bet after he is done crying in his little corner he will be wanting to look into peoples medical records or something just to piss more people off
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The DA is correct about the new laws (anyone with an IQ over 85 would see that), but as an elected official she's unable to address the true cause of Philadelphia crime.

I was at a seminar where she stated that she was unable to comprehend why Philadelphia has high crime, while nearby Bucks and Montgomery counties do not. She said, as best I remember, "it's not something in the water, and it isn't the people, so...."

She can't publicly acknowledge that Philadelphia crime is caused by Philadelphia residents. If she blames the voters, she won't be reelected.

The reality is that if you magically vaporised every Philadelphia resident (after giving warning to the dozen or so good people like Dan P), then brought in a million random folks from Iowa and Kentucky and Arizona, the crime rate would not mysteriously match the pre-vaporisation rate.

Philadelphia crime is caused by Philadelphia residents, primarily those residents who are unsupervised, fatherless, from families without earned income, from a subculture that respects rap singers and prison inmates while promoting non-snitching. They are either criminals or enablers for criminals. The culture finds nothing wrong with lying to the government so that Welfare or WIC or disability benefits can be received. I've worked with some of these people, and even the working folk casually discuss lying about income to get benefits, lying about the identity of their baby's daddies to get assistance.

Philadelphia's criminal culture is too corrupt and too prevalent for the city to be salvaged, absent a disaster. They blame guns, they blame Harrisburg, they blame white folks in the suburbs for ignoring the city. They blame everyone except the people who commit the crimes, the men and women who carelessly spawned them, the single moms who hang out at bars instead of supervising their bastard offspring.
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Great job!! I don't know what Nuttsack needs to discuss. He's an elected official (Hey, everyone makes mistakes) and she's the top law enforcement officer in the county. Hmmmmmm, who might know the law better.........
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Yup, I agree with Lynne on this one.
Kudos for her having the balls to stand up for whats right.
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She can't publicly acknowledge that Philadelphia crime is caused by Philadelphia residents. If she blames the voters, she won't be reelected.
Well said! It's the same reason they don't strictly enforce the car insurance laws. If they went around and towed all of the cars driving illegally in Philadelphia, there would be a wholesale change of elected officials in City Government. That's why our car insurance rates are so much higher than just outside the city.

The truth is, you can look at a precinct by precinct breakdown of violent crime, you would see that there are two Philadelphias, and the one I live in is actually pretty safe and pleasant....

[url="http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_statdist_06.php"]

Why don't they get to work and flush out these areas, instead of trying to get face time on TV? And what is it going to take to get Corbett on board, and stop these assaults on our civil liberties!
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The real sad part about this is that a lot of legislative time went into the passing of these laws that now cannot be enforeced (and shouldn't be). Instead of wasting time/resources on this Nut-job could have been leading meaningful legislation passage that could help reduce crime.

I hope that all the people suffering from crime in Philly are real proud of this idiot they elected.
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The DA is correct about the new laws (anyone with an IQ over 85 would see that), but as an elected official she's unable to address the true cause of Philadelphia crime.

I was at a seminar where she stated that she was unable to comprehend why Philadelphia has high crime, while nearby Bucks and Montgomery counties do not. She said, as best I remember, "it's not something in the water, and it isn't the people, so...."

She can't publicly acknowledge that Philadelphia crime is caused by Philadelphia residents. If she blames the voters, she won't be reelected.

The reality is that if you magically vaporised every Philadelphia resident (after giving warning to the dozen or so good people like Dan P), then brought in a million random folks from Iowa and Kentucky and Arizona, the crime rate would not mysteriously match the pre-vaporisation rate.

Philadelphia crime is caused by Philadelphia residents, primarily those residents who are unsupervised, fatherless, from families without earned income, from a subculture that respects rap singers and prison inmates while promoting non-snitching. They are either criminals or enablers for criminals. The culture finds nothing wrong with lying to the government so that Welfare or WIC or disability benefits can be received. I've worked with some of these people, and even the working folk casually discuss lying about income to get benefits, lying about the identity of their baby's daddies to get assistance.

Philadelphia's criminal culture is too corrupt and too prevalent for the city to be salvaged, absent a disaster. They blame guns, they blame Harrisburg, they blame white folks in the suburbs for ignoring the city. They blame everyone except the people who commit the crimes, the men and women who carelessly spawned them, the single moms who hang out at bars instead of supervising their bastard offspring.
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Now he's got the DA, the police and the citizens of Philly ignoring him as well.
Quick update for Philly residents. Strike my comment about the police ignoring Nutter's illegal laws. Police Chief Ramsey has just stated on camera that his strategy is to pretend he never heard the DA state her refusal to prosecute and he still plans on making arrests.

It is sort of interesting to see what public officials will say on TV without showing even the slightest bit of embarrassment.

http://cbs3.com/video/?id=55623@kyw.dayport.com

Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water. I guess we'll have to see how this plays out after all.

My guess is that even if they don't actually prosecute on these laws, if they do arrest, they'll revoke someones LTCF as an easy form of harassment . . . uh, er, I mean . . . law enforcement.
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Most Philly cops oppose the laws and will not enforce them, at least according to their posts on domelights.com. I think if Ramsey wants people arrested, he will have to hit the streets and do the deed on his own.
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