Man hot over gun permit

[colagrrl]

From the Washington County Observer Reporter:

http://www.observer-reporter.com/OR/...un_permit_flap

11/1/2007
By Barbara S. Miller
Staff writer

A Buffalo Township resident who went to the Washington County sheriff's office this week to renew a gun permit ended up having his permit revoked and facing a disorderly conduct citation.

Jim Main, 59, contends the sheriff's office is bullying him, and he vowed to contact the National Rifle Association, of which he is a life member.

Main received a letter from the sheriff's department notifying him that his gun permit was going to expire in 60 days. Because it arrived on sheriff's department letterhead, he said, he considered the matter urgent and went to the Courthouse Square office on Monday.

After paying $25 to renew the permit, which expires Dec. 26, Main found that the new permit expired in October 2012. He said he felt the permit should have extended to December 26, 2012.

"I figured it was a clerical mistake. I got a little hot under the collar," Main said. "I was yelling some. I shouldn't have lost my temper, admittedly. I made them reissue the old permit, and they gave me the check back.

"The government penalizes me for anything I'm late on. They're taking money and time out of my pocket."

James D'Alessandro, chief deputy sheriff, said the five-year permit was issued in accordance with state law, expiring five years from the date of issue.

Either he or Sgt. Donald Jones told Main the office didn't have to issue a permit on the spot to carry a concealed weapon and could conduct a background check for up to 45 days.

Main said he took exception with the deputy's attitude.

"He was so irate in the office," D'Alessandro said. "If he's that type of a hothead in the office here, what would he be like in the general public?

"He's not going to come in the office and treat our personnel that way and think he's going to get away with it. They're not here to take abuse."

Main said he spoke on the phone with Sheriff Sam Romano about the deputy's behavior, and on Wednesday he received a certified letter notifying him that his gun permit had been revoked.

D'Alessandro said the disorderly conduct citation against Main has been in the works since Monday and that the decision to cite Main was not prompted by Main's phone call Wednesday to the Observer-Reporter.

He also said the sheriff's office has "discretion if someone acts in a bizarre manner or is a loose wire to void their permit."

Main said that in addition to calling the NRA, he plans to sue the sheriff's office.

Romano was not in the sheriff's office Wednesday afternoon.

[fultonCoShooter]

what a fucking cry baby he got what he deserved! i mean its 25 bucks for 5 years...5 bucks a year! 0.4166666 cents a month

idiot lost his CCW permit for 42 cents

[bloomautomatic]

I've dealt with Jim D'Alassandro in the past for carry license for myself, my wife and for getting my ATF forms signed. In my opinion, he is a VERY pro-gun, pro-2nd ammendment, pro-concealed carry guy. I've never had a problem with him.

Vince

[HiredGoon]

That brings up a good question: Have others on this forum had their LTCF (not permit, by the way) renewed for 5 years from the original date of issue or from the date the renewal was issued?

My LTCF expires on Jan. 22, 2008, so I'll find out how Fayette Co. handles this in the next couple of months.

[PAhunter]

Originally Posted by HiredGoon

That brings up a good question: Have others on this forum had their LTCF (not permit, by the way) renewed for 5 years from the original date of issue or from the date the renewal was issued?

My LTCF expires on Jan. 22, 2008, so I'll find out how Fayette Co. handles this in the next couple of months.

Recently renewed my LTCF in Huntingdon County. The old one expired in October, I submitted the renewal in September. The new expiration date is 9/2012. I have no problem at all with this.
I agree the guy in the article sounds like he went a little overboard. What difference does a month make? It's not like he was renewing a magazine subscription.

Jack

[Koli01]

Originally Posted by fultonCoShooter

what a fucking cry baby he got what he deserved! i mean its 25 bucks for 5 years...5 bucks a year! 0.4166666 cents a month

idiot lost his CCW permit for 42 cents

I really have to agree with this.

good find and post colagrrl

[exceltoexcel]

The disorderly conduct charge is BS...

The revocation is BS...

When I register my car I don't get penalized for doing so 2 months in advance...

I think this stinks all around.

Now while the guy might have been overreacting the old saying two wrongs don't make a right applies here.

The Sheriff doesn't need to flex his muscles to teach this guy a lesson.

Now this guy is going to appeal in Harrisburg and Harrisburg is going to give him the permit back at taxpayers expense, all of this is completely unnecessary.

The sheriff shouldve taken a second look at it, calmed the man down and explained the situation in such a way that the man wouldn't have been upset with him nor his deputies.

That should've been the end of that..

Instead we're going to be paying for lack of diplomacy.

Now perhaps the sheriff couldn't have calmed this man down, but I doubt that.

A simple agreement that he doesn't like the fact that its from the date of issue either and that unfortunately the law holds him to that, should've sufficed....

[billamj]

Originally Posted by exceltoexcel

The disorderly conduct charge is BS...

The revocation is BS...

When I register my car I don't get penalized for doing so 2 months in advance...

I think this stinks all around.

Now while the guy might have been overreacting the old saying two wrongs don't make a right applies here.

The Sheriff doesn't need to flex his muscles to teach this guy a lesson.

Now this guy is going to appeal in Harrisburg and Harrisburg is going to give him the permit back at taxpayers expense, all of this is completely unnecessary.

The sheriff shouldve taken a second look at it, calmed the man down and explained the situation in such a way that the man wouldn't have been upset with him nor his deputies.

That should've been the end of that..

Instead we're going to be paying for lack of diplomacy.

Now perhaps the sheriff couldn't have calmed this man down, but I doubt that.

A simple agreement that he doesn't like the fact that its from the date of issue either and that unfortunately the law holds him to that, should've sufficed....

UM.... Is there any reason to believe that the deputies DIDN'T try to explain the situation to this assclown in a calmn and reasonable manner? Not from what I've read. If you want an LTCF you really shouldn't go off on the deputies for following the rules. He blew it, end of story.

[carterbeauford]

wait, sheriff's deputies can press charges?

[WhiteFeather]

Originally Posted by bloomautomatic

I've dealt with Jim D'Alassandro in the past for carry license for myself, my wife and for getting my ATF forms signed. In my opinion, he is a VERY pro-gun, pro-2nd ammendment, pro-concealed carry guy. I've never had a problem with him.
Vince

+1 Vince

I will second that, everyone in the Washington county sheriff office that I had any dealing with was very friendily and helpful, VERY MUCH different than how Allegheny county sheriff office is run.


+1 colagrrl for the post & find