Man hot over gun permit

[XD45]

sounds to me he was just looking for a problem, he said himself when he saw the date on the card he thought it was an error, but still got hot under the collar, if you just think its a mistake at first why get so upset? this guy makes my list for top 10 morons. i'd bet he was yelling at some poor lady behind a desk just doing her part time job. I hate people like that, arent happy unless there is a problem. he deserves everything he gets and more for making us gun folk look worse

[exceltoexcel]

Originally Posted by billamj

All of which is true but since none of us were there we don't know how beligerent this idiot got before he had finally pissed off this deputy to the point that he felt that he had no choice but to pursue charges. And yes, I will call him an idiot, you don't take out an issue with a statute on someone who is enforcing it, you might complain to the but you don't go ballistic on them.

I agree with everything but this lame deputies action in filing the charges, quit being a pussy and take it like a man. Was the poor little deputies feelings hurt? I mean seriously.. You stand there and yell at me for whatever, I'm not filing charges against you like I'm a Nancy boy just because you yelled at me... That's childish. Most certainly the deputy could've done it if it was THAT bad right on the spot, but he didn't. He waited days/weeks. Lame-o-matic

[fultonCoShooter]

Originally Posted by exceltoexcel

Taking it further isn't disorderly conduct...

It's wasn't over 42 Cents, it was over the principle of the matter!

If he took it that far they would've cuffed him right there or ticketed him...


You don't wait days or weeks to "file charges"

That's just petty and lame...

Lets see here ....he got his new permit, was unhappy about the expiration date on it which im sorry works out to 84 cents, the cops explained the law to him, he got his old permit back and they refunded his check, BUT instead of leaving and coming back when it expired, HE then got pissed lost his temper whuch he admits to and acted like a jackass

Principles? what principles? that he is one of those people who acts like a 10 year old cause they dont get there way,,, come on man the law states 5 years from day of issue! He is lucky to have a sheriff that issues on the spot, noone was pickin on him GEEEZ

[dnar]

I was thinking about going to the sheriff's office to see if they would issue me another permit because my picture is beginning to fade beyond recognition. But now I'm afraid that they will take my gun permit away from me for appearing vain.



rand

[XD45]

i find it fairly obvious going into a sheriffs office and starting to yell at people for doing their job is gonna result in a disorderly.. and no, the sheriff is not a little girl because of it.. the only one in the wrong is the guy freaking out over less than a dollar!

[tourrider]

Originally Posted by billamj

UM.... Is there any reason to believe that the deputies DIDN'T try to explain the situation to this assclown in a calmn and reasonable manner? Not from what I've read. If you want an LTCF you really shouldn't go off on the deputies for following the rules. He blew it, end of story.

I suspect there could not have been any explaining it to him. If he can loose it over a month difference..... Wait till the neighbors dog craps in his yard !!

Is a little emotional stability too much to ask?

[billamj]

Originally Posted by exceltoexcel

I agree with everything but this lame deputies action in filing the charges, quit being a pussy and take it like a man. Was the poor little deputies feelings hurt? I mean seriously.. You stand there and yell at me for whatever, I'm not filing charges against you like I'm a Nancy boy just because you yelled at me... That's childish. Most certainly the deputy could've done it if it was THAT bad right on the spot, but he didn't. He waited days/weeks. Lame-o-matic

It isn't YOUR call to make. It could have been an instance of the man going overboard and saying that he "ought to take you outside", or "ought to shoot you." In those cases they are threats to a government official in the line of duty and you will get charged, period, end of quote. YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WAS SAID AND/OR DONE. Neither do I but you can't second guess the situation. The man was trying to renew a LTCF. Now not taking into consideration that it is at best questionable for the government to force it on us, if this ass clown made a threat of violence he got exactly what was coming his way and he should be glad that nothing more than a misdemeanor charge is coming his way.

[billamj]

Originally Posted by dnar

I was thinking about going to the sheriff's office to see if they would issue me another permit because my picture is beginning to fade beyond recognition. But now I'm afraid that they will take my gun permit away from me for appearing vain.



rand

In your case that would be a logical idea.

[MartinBrody]

Consider the deputies point of view. This guy reacts in an irrational and compulsive manner right in front of you, his reaction to the situation is out of proportion to the perceived wrong that was committed.

I agree we shouldn't need a permit to carry a gun, if you can legally buy one you should be able to carry it however you want. However, this isn't up to the deputy, the Sheriff's dept. "shall investigate whether the applicant's character and reputation are such that the applicant will not be likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety", this is the law. I side with the Deputy & his Dept.

[Montanya]

Yeah I wasn't there but if the idiot blew up at some clerical worker in the firearms office (in Allegheny county I know we don't typically have uniformed deputies in there) perhaps after the guy left she went and talked to one of the deputies, who then took it to the sheriff and the sheriff felt his actions warrented charges.

I agree that the law currently says that you can be denied if they have reason to believe that you will act in an irrational manner. I think wigging out in the sheriff's office over a month on a LTCF is irrational. Especially since it seems they went out of their way, they could have just told him to stuff it and they had his check and he had his LTCF, but they went the extra step to re-issue his old LTCF and give him his check back.