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I am so goddamned sick of people who are loud mouthed and rude to people waiting on them, then want to complain about being treated poorly. This douchebag even said he got angry first. " Waah, the guy at the counter didn't kiss my ass enough!!"
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wait, sheriff's deputies can press charges?
Sure, just like you or any other citizen can.
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Sure, just like you or any other citizen can.
hahaha, +1

I've some some research and am still not sure I understand the role of county sheriffs as law enforcement officers in PA.
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I'm with Bill on this one, this guy blew it. The Sheriff has the right to deny a permit to anyone he thinks could be a risk, that's why the law gives them 45 days to perform a background check. This guy GAVE the sheriff a reason to charge him, and it was enough to revoke his permit. Now, I still don't like the idea of permits, as they are IMHO an infringement which is in direct contradiction with the state Constitution. However, until it's challenged and overturned, it's the law and it must be adhered to.

I guess this guy will have to OC now.
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Rudeness in general is one of my pet peaves. While I was not there, and am only going on what I read, it sounds like the applicant got what he asked for. It's people like this that give everyone else a bad name--especially since he intends to call the NRA into it. Suing the Sheriff's Office? Isn't that like a twice a day McDonald's patron suing for ill-health effects?
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UM.... Is there any reason to believe that the deputies DIDN'T try to explain the situation to this assclown in a calmn and reasonable manner? Not from what I've read. If you want an LTCF you really shouldn't go off on the deputies for following the rules. He blew it, end of story.
From a devils advocate point of view, I totally understand why one would be upset to lose time on a permit for being overly prompt in renewing it. It should be like a drivers licence.

There is absolutely no need to file any charge for someone getting upset at the law. It's protected free speech. Want to know how to handle an irate person, watch the Vermont video of the guy getting stopped for speeding, sure most have seen it. The guy is yelling and throwing the ticket on the ground and cursing, etc... The officer is composed like a professional tells the guy to either pick up the ticket or he will site him for littering. He didn't throw a charge on the guy for getting upset... He did his job and he did it well. There is no need for this guy to be charged with anything, it wouldn't hold up. Expressing your emotions verbally, while often times childish, does have a legitimate purpose for the actor.

Personally pressing charges sort of makes the sheriff seem petty and vindictive to me... If the guy was that bad they should've done so directly at the time of the incident not days or weeks later...
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This story just reitterates the power the gov't has over what are supposed to be "rights"
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From a devils advocate point of view, I totally understand why one would be upset to lose time on a permit for being overly prompt in renewing it. It should be like a drivers licence.

There is absolutely no need to file any charge for someone getting upset at the law. It's protected free speech. Want to know how to handle an irate person, watch the Vermont video of the guy getting stopped for speeding, sure most have seen it. The guy is yelling and throwing the ticket on the ground and cursing, etc... The officer is composed like a professional tells the guy to either pick up the ticket or he will site him for littering. He didn't throw a charge on the guy for getting upset... He did his job and he did it well. There is no need for this guy to be charged with anything, it wouldn't hold up. Expressing your emotions verbally, while often times childish, does have a legitimate purpose for the actor.

Personally pressing charges sort of makes the sheriff seem petty and vindictive to me... If the guy was that bad they should've done so directly at the time of the incident not days or weeks later...
All of which is true but since none of us were there we don't know how beligerent this idiot got before he had finally pissed off this deputy to the point that he felt that he had no choice but to pursue charges. And yes, I will call him an idiot, you don't take out an issue with a statute on someone who is enforcing it, you might complain to the but you don't go ballistic on them.
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ill say it again he blew up over 42 cents

dont defend him or his actions

This moron went in got his new permit and then went ape shit over 42 cents. The law states valid for 5 years from the day of issue!

then when the sheriff gave him his old permit back and also his money he still acted like a jackass. Which i see as very accommodating He took it further well thats disorderly conduct. Also like the sheriff said if he acts like that in the sheriff's office how would he react in public.
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Taking it further isn't disorderly conduct...

It's wasn't over 42 Cents, it was over the principle of the matter!

If he took it that far they would've cuffed him right there or ticketed him...


You don't wait days or weeks to "file charges"

That's just petty and lame...
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