LT. COLOMBO ON THE CASE OF THE MISSING DOCUNENTS

[LastManOut]

Ah . . . Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama, Sir


Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean Senator Obama, sir. Um . . . know you are busy and important and stuff. I mean running for president is very important and . . . ah . . . I hate to bother you. I will only take a minute ok, sir?
See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal, just some loose ends and things.
Hey, you have a nice place here! The wife sees houses like this on TV all the time and says boy she wishes she had digs like this you know? Is that painting real? Really? Wow. I saw something like that in a museum once!

Oh, sorry sir. I didn't mean to get off the track. So if you could just help me out a minute and give me some details, I will get right out of your way. I want to close this case and maybe take the wife to Coney Island or something. Ever been to Coney Island ? No, I didn't think so. . .
Well, listen, anyways, I can't seem to get some information I need to wrap this up. These things seem to either be "locked" or "not available'. I'm sure it's just some oversight or glitch or something, so if you could you tell me where these things are . I . . . have them written down here somewhere . . . oh wait. Sorry about the smears. It was raining out. I'll just read it to you.
Could you help me please find these things, sir?
• Your Occidental College records
• Your Columbia College records
• Your Columbia Thesis paper
• Your Harvard College records
• Your Selective Service Registration
• Your medical records
• Your Illinois State Senate records
• Your Illinois State Senate schedule
• Your Law practice client list
• A Certified Copy of your original Birth certificate
• Your embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth
• Your Harvard Law Review articles that were published
• Your University of Chicago scholarly articles
• Your Record of baptism

Oh hey . . . listen! I know you are busy! Is this too much for you now? I mean tell you what. I will come back tomorrow. Give you some time to get these things together, you know? I mean, I know you are busy, so I will just let myself out. I will be back tomorrow. And the day after. .

[er2006]

Are all of those things in question? Most of that type of info is public record, especially the Illinois Senate stuff. I can't imagine a Institution of higher learning not checking on the credentials of a applicant or a "graduate" who claims to have a degree from their instittion.

I hope this can be cleared up as it is troubling to think that a person to claim all of this is true and it turns out to be false is running for the highest office in the country. I would be very upset to find a liar and cheat of that magnitude is running for any public office.

Ed

I hope he loses, but only votes count.

[marinakorp]

What does a record of Baptism have to do with ANYTHING?

[Eugene V. Debs]

Originally Posted by marinakorp

What does a record of Baptism have to do with ANYTHING?

Nothing. Just a lot of people out there scared that Obama is a Muslim. Sad, really, that so many people in this country still base their votes on the religion of a candidate. You could have a Presidential candidate that had the ability to give all of us freedom and wealth, eliminate crime and pollution, find a cure for cancer, AIDS, dementia and baldness, and ensure everyone was at their ideal weight, had great sex lives, were happy and healthy their whole lives, and if he or she was a Muslim or an atheist they'd never get elected. Not that I think Obama's a great candidate, just saying his religion should not factor into it, but unfortunately does, along with a lot of other stupid shit.

And, like er2006, I doubt all of these things are really in question. That being said I thought the Colombo frame was rather clever and got a chuckle out of it.

[adymond]

I have a different tak eon the cert of baptism. Obama has made such a big deal about being Christian and people question this because of fear or whatever. I think if candidate X makes a specific claim about themselves or their background they had better be able to prove it. I don't care what religion he is there are PLENTY of other reasons not to trust that joker.

As far as the other documents. Yeah they are pretty much all missing. His IL senate voting records are missing (I think there was a fire in the room housing the ONLY copy of those records). His "thesis" has been claimed to not be a theisis since it was for undergrad, but it was the equivilant since it was a term paper that was required for completion of a course and was rather lengthy regarding the total elimination of nuclear weapons in the US as a way to lead the world into nuclear disarmerment and that is also not on record anywhere nor is there a single copy anywhere. His birth cirtificate and CoLB are suggested forgeries. His medical records have been sealed as have his college records. I don't know about the rest of the documents, but I think there are enough substantiative questions that something needs to be done to clear them up quickly. I almost would like to see him get the nomination and then be found to be inelligable. How freaking funny would that be. It would almost become a two party race between McCain and a third party candidate.

[Eugene V. Debs]

Originally Posted by adymond

I have a different tak eon the cert of baptism. Obama has made such a big deal about being Christian and people question this because of fear or whatever. I think if candidate X makes a specific claim about themselves or their background they had better be able to prove it. I don't care what religion he is there are PLENTY of other reasons not to trust that joker.

As far as the other documents. Yeah they are pretty much all missing. His IL senate voting records are missing (I think there was a fire in the room housing the ONLY copy of those records). His "thesis" has been claimed to not be a theisis since it was for undergrad, but it was the equivilant since it was a term paper that was required for completion of a course and was rather lengthy regarding the total elimination of nuclear weapons in the US as a way to lead the world into nuclear disarmerment and that is also not on record anywhere nor is there a single copy anywhere. His birth cirtificate and CoLB are suggested forgeries. His medical records have been sealed as have his college records. I don't know about the rest of the documents, but I think there are enough substantiative questions that something needs to be done to clear them up quickly. I almost would like to see him get the nomination and then be found to be inelligable. How freaking funny would that be. It would almost become a two party race between McCain and a third party candidate.

Question-- he's had a medical exam that's been made public, yes? If he has, I don't see any reason to make HIPAA-protected medical information public. A simple "healthy, no serious medical ailments" should be enough for election purposes, do we really want to know about a case of gonnorhea Obama got when he was 19?

IMO, the most relevant of this info would be his client list. I think this info should be printed about every politician in a special section of the newspaper every week. In fact, it would be great if every paper had a special section just dedicated to tracking campaign money, lobbying, politicians' private interests and how this relates to committee assignments and votes on bills. Sure you can find out most of this stuff with a little online research, but I see no reason for why in a truly free and open society this information should not be made even more accessible to the masses. Newspapers have entire sections dedicated to sports and entertainment, why not for something that really matters-- political transperancy. You never see these topics discussed until someone's political enemies decide to make it an issue and a scandal erupts. Biden's lobbyist son is a good example-- that shit wouldn't be front-page news if he weren't running for VP.

[adymond]

Originally Posted by Eugene V. Debs

Question-- he's had a medical exam that's been made public, yes? If he has, I don't see any reason to make HIPAA-protected medical information public. A simple "healthy, no serious medical ailments" should be enough for election purposes, do we really want to know about a case of gonnorhea Obama got when he was 19?

IMO, the most relevant of this info would be his client list. I think this info should be printed about every politician in a special section of the newspaper every week. In fact, it would be great if every paper had a special section just dedicated to tracking campaign money, lobbying, politicians' private interests and how this relates to committee assignments and votes on bills. Sure you can find out most of this stuff with a little online research, but I see no reason for why in a truly free and open society this information should not be made even more accessible to the masses. Newspapers have entire sections dedicated to sports and entertainment, why not for something that really matters-- political transperancy. You never see these topics discussed until someone's political enemies decide to make it an issue and a scandal erupts. Biden's lobbyist son is a good example-- that shit wouldn't be front-page news if he weren't running for VP.

I think the reason his medical records are being called for is the same reason McCain's are being paraded around. He does have a history of high risk behavior. He smokes. McCain had skin cancer so he can't sneeze in the proximity of a physician without the news media clamoring about it. I agree though that the simple "all clear" should suffice, but these days it doesn't seem to. I find it slightly disturbing that you don't thinkg his voting and attendance records are less important than his client list. How about proof that he is a naturalized US citizen? Isn't that pretty important? His grandmother, and two siblings (or half siblings) state that he was born in Kenya. I agree that his lobyist son would not have been big news, but I also remember a recent story about one of McCain's aids who was a lobbyist for Georgia. I don't know how that was made into such a big deal since he no longer is lobbying for Georgia. If the guy was still lobbying for Georgia I think it is an issue. He's not. It is previous employment. I like to think people can move from one place of employment to another and not have ties to previous employers that will impact the current employment.

[Eugene V. Debs]

Originally Posted by adymond

I find it slightly disturbing that you don't thinkg his voting and attendance records are less important than his client list.

Sorry, didn't mean to disturb you. That's not exactly what I said, but I think his client list could reliably tell me what interests he will be serving once elected, and thus would be more informative about his policy than his voting record in the state senate. I'll put it this way-- give me the committee assignments, political contributors, corporate associations, clients and lobbying connections of almost any politician out there and I can tell you how he or she will vote on a bill without even looking at their voting record.

How about proof that he is a naturalized US citizen? Isn't that pretty important?

Constitutionally it's the most important, but as a voter it wouldn't be as important as knowing what policies he would pursue and who's interests he would be serving (I'm gonna assume the worst on both for any major party candidate, but having specifics is useful).

I agree that his lobyist son would not have been big news, but I also remember a recent story about one of McCain's aids who was a lobbyist for Georgia. I don't know how that was made into such a big deal since he no longer is lobbying for Georgia. If the guy was still lobbying for Georgia I think it is an issue. He's not. It is previous employment.

But again, proves my point-- wouldn't even be a story were McCain not running for Prez.

I like to think people can move from one place of employment to another and not have ties to previous employers that will impact the current employment.

Well, perhaps I'm more cynical than you, but when I see a former executive of Dow Chemicals being appointed to an EPA post, I assume he's not going to be very tough on enviornmental enforcement, or when I see a corporate lawyer being appointed to a position in the Labor Department, I'm gonna assume he's gonna be pro-employer. I'm a pretty big believer that a lot, if not all of Washington, is based around private interests and corporate lobbying.

Keep in mind there's a revolving door too. Many corporate lawyers, executives and lobbyists go into government, then when they retire go back to the private sector. Like I said, I'm a cynic, but I don't believe these businessmen and lobbyists who end up in government (especially in appointed positions), then go back to their previous careers are entirely motivated by a desire for public service, like some kind of millionaire's version of the Peace Corps. I think they are there to curry political favors, make powerful contacts and shape policy in a way that will enrich both themselves and their clients.

[ReefBlue]

Is this the kind of thing people come up with when they have to actually admit the guy isn't a Muslim?


http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

[LastManOut]

Originally Posted by ReefBlue

Is this the kind of thing people come up with when they have to actually admit the guy isn't a Muslim?


http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

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Dr. Jack Wheeler on The O-Man


JACK WHEELER is a brilliant man who was the author of
Reagan's strategy to break the back of the Soviet
Union with the star wars race and expose their inner
weakness. For years he wrote a weekly intelligence
update that was extremely interesting and well
structured and informed. He consults(ed) with several
mega corporations on global trends and the future,
etc. I think he is in semi-retirement now. He is a
true patriot with a no-nonsense approach to
everything. He is also a somewhat well known mountain
climber and adventurer.


Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler

The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently
tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments,
no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of
how the economy works, no understanding of how the
world works, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric
devoid of real substance.

He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he
rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he
hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic
surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way
to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in
Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from
his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is
exclusively.

What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is
'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved
Africans brought to America chained in slave ships.
He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead,
his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading
was the main Arab business in East Africa for
centuries until the British ended it.

Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of
slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he
makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.

It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some
complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the
Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond
politics and reason. It is a true religious cult,
whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe
in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of
being human to the evil of being white.

Thus Obama has become the w hite liberals' Christ,
offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There
is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of
his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make
of any kind can be effective against it. The
absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being
their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to
worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because
it is absurd.

Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans
remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a
phony savior.

His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken
seriously by any thinking American.


Pass this on to every thinking American you know!




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