JOHN McCAIN IS A LIBERAL GUN GRABBER

[LastManOut]

JOHN McCAIN IS A LIBERAL GUN GRABBER

By Pastor Chuck Baldwin

February 22, 2008

NewsWithViews.com

The last thing we need is another liberal neocon in the White House. If the Presidency of George W. Bush proved anything, it proved the hazard of electing phony Republican conservatives. At least one is able to clearly see a liberal for what he or she is when they have a "D" behind their name. But put an "R" behind the name and suddenly their liberal, Big-Government, anti-freedom agenda is barely recognized, which makes a liberal Republican much more dangerous than a liberal Democrat.
Let me say it straight out: a John McCain Presidency would be far worse than a Barack Obama Presidency. With a Democrat in the White House, conservatives and Christians suddenly find their principles and are able to offer resistance. Put a Republican in the Oval Office, however, and those same people become blind, deaf, and dumb to most any principle they profess.
Nowhere is McCain's chicanery and duplicity more jeopardous than in the area of the right to keep and bear arms. On issues relating to the Second Amendment, John McCain is a disaster! For example, the highly respected Gun Owners of America (GOA) rates McCain with a grade of F-. McCain's failing grade is well deserved.
John McCain sponsored an amendment to S. 1805 on March 2, 2004 that would outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows. According to GOA, the provision would effectively eliminate gun shows, because every member of an organization sponsoring a gun show could be imprisoned if the organization fails to notify each and every "person who attends the special firearms event of the requirements [under the Brady Law]."
John McCain also sponsored an Incumbent Protection provision to the so-called "Campaign Finance Reform" bill, which severely curtails the ability of outside groups (such as GOA) to communicate the actions of incumbent politicians to members and supporters prior to an election.
The GOA report of the 106th Congress reveals that out of 15 votes relating to the right to keep and bear arms, Senator John McCain voted favorably only 4 times. Put that into a percentage and McCain's pro-Second Amendment voting record is a pathetic 27%.
In addition, GOA warns that John McCain supported legislation that would force federal agents to increase efforts in arresting and convicting honest gun owners who may inadvertently violate one of the many federal anti-gun laws, which punish mere technicalities, such as gun possession.
For example, if John McCain's proposed legislation were to become law, a gun owner who travels with a gun through a school zone or who uses one of the family handguns to go target shooting with a 15-year old could be sent to prison. And a person who uses a gun for self-defense could be sent to prison for a mandatory minimum of five years.
But there is so much more to the McCain madness.
Former California State Senator H.L. "Bill" Richardson wrote this about John McCain, "He's [McCain's] proven his dislike for conservatives and would gut us at every opportunity.
"Why do I say that? Because of three decades of experience as a Republican California Senator and a fifty year activist in the conservative movement. I have first hand, in-their-face experience with elitist RINO's (Republican in Name Only) office holders. They are biblically ignorant, power hungry, status seeking egotists who have no difficulty aiding their liberal Democrat colleagues whenever their arms are politely twisted. The one thing they have in common with liberal Democrats is their dislike for all conservatives, especially those who are Bible-believing. McCain, as president, would stifle the voices of elected Republican leaders and try to legislate the conservative movement out of existence."
Senator Richardson went on to say that he would in no way vote for John McCain, if indeed McCain is the Republican nominee (which he obviously will be).
I wonder how many gun owners and other professing pro-freedom Americans have already fallen victim to McCain's phony conservative campaign? Do they not realize that they are giving a rope to the hangman? And that they--conservatives and gun owners--are the ones who McCain will send to the gallows? What is wrong with the American people these days? Have they not been betrayed enough by these phony conservative Republicans?
For example, President George W. Bush recently nominated Michael Sullivan to be Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Sullivan is one of the nation's most rabid anti-gunners. GOA's Larry Pratt describes Sullivan as being "as anti-gun as Ted Kennedy." Honest gun owners, lawful firearms dealers, and law-abiding gun show operators could have no worse enemy within the federal government than Michael Sullivan. We could expect no worse from Hillary Clinton. And a John McCain Presidency would doubtless give us more of the same.
Regarding the Second Amendment, the American people have no better friend than Ron Paul. He has a 20-year proven track record of fidelity to the right to keep and bear arms. The GOA rates Congressman Paul with a grade of A+. According to GOA Executive Director Larry Pratt, Ron Paul has been a leader in the fight to defend and restore the Second Amendment. He has sponsored legislation to repeal the following: the Brady law; the requirement to lock up your guns; the law permitting the U.S. to be part of the U.N (which, among other attacks on American freedoms, seeks to ban privately transferred firearms); participation in UNESCO; federal prohibitions on any pilot wishing to carry a handgun to and in his cockpit; and the so-called "assault weapons" ban (prior to its sunsetting in 2004).

Ron Paul has also sponsored legislation requiring states to treat the concealed carry permit of one state the same as they do that state's driver's license. Dr. Paul also opposes a national ID card, which would be a tool of government to identify gun ownership.
Gun owners (along with conservatives and Christians of all sorts) should be ashamed of themselves for allowing an angry, gun-grabbing liberal such as John McCain to become the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee, while rejecting the candidacy of one of America's most principled pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, pro-Constitution, and pro-freedom legislators of this generation: Congressman Ron Paul.

I say again, the last thing we need is another liberal neocon in the White House. John McCain may have an "R" behind his name, but he is just another establishment liberal: one America cannot afford.
*© 2008 Chuck Baldwin - All Rights Reserved

[widearea]

Wow..I guess we are screwed...

[manyplews]

BULLSH-- !!

Google the author:

"Charles "Chuck" Baldwin (born May 3, 1952) is an American activist in the Constitution Party, and pastor of Crossroad Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida; located in Escambia County on the far northwestern Florida Gulf Coast. In 2004, Baldwin was the Constitution Party nominee for Vice President, and on April 26; Baldwin was named as the 2008 presidential nominee.[1] Baldwin hosts a weekly radio program and writes a weekly news column carried on his website and on the VDARE.com site as well.

A former member of the Republican Party, Baldwin has been a longstanding critic of U.S. President George W. Bush. Baldwin is known as a staunch opponent of what he calls the "New World Order", the "North American Union" and amnesty for illegal immigrants. Baldwin has also suggested reopening the investigation into the September 11, 2001 attacks, believing that the 9/11 Truth Movement have a right to have their theories investigated, including the possibility of U.S. government involvement in the attacks

Hey,I like a lot of Ron Paul's ideas but a vote for him is a vote for Obama.
This Baldwin has mucho warts,as you will see when you "google" him.

[Gkgas]

Not a big McCain fan, but he would be far better then Obama.

[armabill]

No candidate is perfect on everything.

Vote for the lesser of two evils, so to speak. Obama said that when push comes
to shove, he'll side with the Muslims. That there is a tie breaker for sure.

Now if Colin Powell was to run, that would be different.

[Pro2A]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. It all depends on congress. The way the oil thing is going I have a feeling a lot of Democrats are going to be out of a job come 09. John McCain is no day at the beach, but he won't actively push anti-gun legislation. He might sign it, but won't push it. If we have a comfortable pro-gun majority in the house or senate in 09 we have nothing to worry about.

[dc dalton]

Tell you what, if McCain chooses Lieberman as his VP (as has been rumored) we are so screwed either way its not funny ... that is one person I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him!

[LittleRedToyota]

mccain is NOT a liberal gun grabber.

the GOA just has a misplaced chip on their shoulder regarding him because of mccain-feingold (which, though a horrible piece of legislation, was not aimed at the GOA/NRA and had absolutely nothing to do with guns).

look at mccain's voting record.

he voted AGAINST the klinton AWB both the first time around and when it came up for renewal.

here is some more of his voting record from http://www.ontheissues.org/john_mccain.htm

Voted against Brady Bill & assault weapon ban. (Aug 1999)
Voted YES on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
Voted YES on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)
Voted NO on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted YES on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999)
Voted YES on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted YES on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998)

mccain is certainly not perfect on guns, but he is far, far, far from a liberal gun grabber. his voting record, overall, is actually quite pro-gun.

i hope these morons who keep spreading this crap around don't actually succeed at getting obama elected (which is essentially what they are working toward whether they admit it or not)...because then they will find out what a liberal gun grabber really is.

hmmm...mccain wants to allow CCW in national parks. obama wants a nationwide ban on concealed carry altogether.

mccain opposes and has a perfect record of voting against an AWB. obama wants (or at one point wanted) to ban all semi-autos and all handguns.

i mean, good grief...

(ETA: btw, i completely agree that ron paul is the man. i voted for him in the primary and wish he were the rep nominee, but he isn't...and he isn't going to be on the ballot in november. if you are going to vote for someone other mccain or obama, at least vote for a 3rd party candidate that is actually on the ballot--like bob barr. if you goal is to break the 2 party stranglehold, that is a better way to do it.

and i totally understand voting 3rd part and do it myself the overwhelming majority of the time.

so, if that's the way you feel, cool...vote for someone else to fight against the 2 party stranglehold. but don't do it because mccain is supposedly a liberal gun grabber because he just plain isn't.)

[Elmar]

Originally Posted by armabill

No candidate is perfect on everything.

Vote for the lesser of two evils, so to speak. Obama said that when push comes
to shove, he'll side with the Muslims. That there is a tie breaker for sure.

Now if Colin Powell was to run, that would be different.

Voting for the lesser of two evils is not only still voting for evil but encouraging the choice of only evil A or evil B by showing you accept the terms of the choice.

There are more than two people running for President.

[ALS]

Obama is absolute worst candidate that this country has ever nominated for the office of the President of the U.S..
When you really dig into his past and the people and associations he mingled with it ought to scare the hell out of you.
New Party is one he made political deals with when he was a community organizer for ACORN. Check out who these people are. Hint look at the address bar when you get to the home page. DSA = Democrat Socialists of America

The New Party

Links to the association between Barack and the New Party.

Barack/New Party