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Not saying nothing happened involving National Guard, but I had heard it was the local sheriff's departments that were rounding up guns to never be returned. I had not heard of the NG involvment.
various national guard outfits took part.

http://www.gunowners.org/no02.htm

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ABC News video on September 8 showed National Guard troops going house-to-house, smashing down doors, searching for residents, and confiscating guns. Every victim of disarmament was clearly not a thug or looter, but a decent resident wanting to defend his or her home.

Many of the troops were clearly conflicted by their orders. "It is surreal," said one member of the Oklahoma National Guard who was going door-to-door in New Orleans. "You never expect to do this in your own country."
(note how one guardman says "it's surreal" and "you never expect to do this in your own country" yet he went ahead and did it.)

here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5PC...eature=related

and from: http://www.saf.org/viewpr.asp?id=161

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An ABC news crew accompanying an Oklahoma National Guard unit filmed another incident in which homeowners were handcuffed and disarmed, then released but without their firearms.
from http://www.gunsandammomag.com/second...06r/index.html

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Superintendent Compass managed to round up some police officers and National Guardsmen to go door to door, confiscating guns from law-abiding citizens and leaving them helpless against the depredations of armed criminals.

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The participation of National Guard troops in gun-confiscation efforts raised a few eyebrows in the legal community. According to federal law, military forces--with some exceptions--may not participate in civilian law enforcement activities. The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 ("posse comitatus" means "the power of the county") was passed in response to the intrusive involvement of federal troops in elections held in the former Confederate states.

The National Guard units in New Orleans are deployed under the authority of the governor, and the Posse Comitatus Act does allow National Guard units to participate in civilian law enforcement activities--as long as the governor has ordered their deployment. Even so, it is a bit unsettling to watch National Guardsmen kicking down doors to confiscate legal firearms.
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and, the actions of some national guardsmen in NOLA after katrina spring immediately to mind...
Please pay particular attention to the section starting at 1 min 52 seconds.

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