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Default Revolution March Raw Video

The Revolution March took place in Washington D.C. this past weekend. Here's the first footage that I've found:

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Wow. There where quite a few people there! Does anyone know what the rough count was? How come this wasn't covered by the MSM.........oh wait.......thats right........nevermind.
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if you play both videos at the same time you can see obama with his turban flying around on his magic carpet holding a sign (change) in all seriousness, this video should get some media attention.. paul for pres.....
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Wow, good for them.
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Wow. There where quite a few people there! Does anyone know what the rough count was? How come this wasn't covered by the MSM.........oh wait.......thats right........nevermind.
I was there, trust me you should be glad for the lack of MSM coverage. It was not a well organized event at all and in fact included a lot of thins that would easily be used to ridicule and dismiss the ideas of individual sovereignty in the minds of most voters. I was a part of the march and did not appreciate the upside down us flags being shown even though I may have an idea of the message they might have been using that symbol to represent because most would not.

It started late and there was no single unifying message which means if the MSM wanted to cover it really they would have to go in depth about several issues most of which would bore their readers - thats not why they are in business. Much easier to take pictures of upside down flags and people in revolutionary dress and people holding black and red banners and hype negativity on crazies as an attention piece.

This is what the movement needs to understand: perception is how we win elections and thus bring about change. If people aren't willing to play the game as it is played the only other option is outright violence thus it comes down to put up or shut up or get out. Put up with the way things are because you can't hold yourself to the level that would need to be to get real change, shut up means zip it and work to affect change in the system and get out means get out of the country or the movement.
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I was there, trust me you should be glad for the lack of MSM coverage. It was not a well organized event at all and in fact included a lot of thins that would easily be used to ridicule and dismiss the ideas of individual sovereignty in the minds of most voters. I was a part of the march and did not appreciate the upside down us flags being shown even though I may have an idea of the message they might have been using that symbol to represent because most would not.

It started late and there was no single unifying message which means if the MSM wanted to cover it really they would have to go in depth about several issues most of which would bore their readers - thats not why they are in business. Much easier to take pictures of upside down flags and people in revolutionary dress and people holding black and red banners and hype negativity on crazies as an attention piece.

This is what the movement needs to understand: perception is how we win elections and thus bring about change. If people aren't willing to play the game as it is played the only other option is outright violence thus it comes down to put up or shut up or get out. Put up with the way things are because you can't hold yourself to the level that would need to be to get real change, shut up means zip it and work to affect change in the system and get out means get out of the country or the movement.
The display of the flag upsidedown is the sign of distress or people in trouble. Just because most people don't know that does not make it a bad thing.
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The display of the flag upsidedown is the sign of distress or people in trouble. Just because most people don't know that does not make it a bad thing.
No, it does. (it is also the indication of surrender - a white flag is used to signal a truce for negotiations)

People don't vote on what they don't know, they vote and act with what they know regardless if it is truthful or not. We cannot make real political change if people aren't willing to act with more decorum and in a more acceptable way. Instead of wasting time, energy, and resources talking to some of the people who see that flag and are turned off (you'll never talk to all of them as many won't even talk to you because their minds have been made up) you could be using it selling your position to them because they liked what they saw (nice clean individual with a clear message they agreed with).

We win elections because we have "most people" on our side (at least most people who vote) - to say that what "most people" think is immaterial is to ignore the fundamental realities of our system. Sure you are right, and you can be as smug in that as our society continues to go down the crapper as much as you want to be.
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