McCain / Bloomberg - I Can't Take It Anymore

[Pa. Patriot]

I think I'll announce my candidacy tomorrow

[str8shooter]

Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot

I think I'll announce my candidacy tomorrow

Sounds like you're taking the first step in the right direction. Start a conveniently placed rumor about an impending candidacy. Then conduct an informal straw poll based on people's reaction. If you see a show of support, move forward with the formal announcement, if it looks futile, deny you ever said you were running.

Then there's the "Thompson" strategy, say you might run, then say you might not, then when it looks like you might get some support, say you are again, then when it's clear no one give's a crap, say you're not again, then when people say but now we have no good choices, say you are again, then when NBC says they'll pay you more in a week than the president makes in a year, say fuck y'all, the Hollywood script writers are better than whitehouse speach writers anyway.

[Jelanen]

Originally Posted by 625

Not if he gained more D's than he lost R's.

Never happens. No republican wins elections by trying to be more democrat than democrats. Recipe for failure every time its tried.

[ChamberedRound]

Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot

I think I'll announce my candidacy tomorrow

You've got my vote! Oh, but wait a minute, if I do that it takes away a vote from McCain and then Obama will win...

Stupid 2 party system.

[625]

Never happens. No republican wins elections by trying to be more democrat than democrats. Recipe for failure every time its tried.

Not that I disagree with what has happened in the past, but can you name a Republican Presidential candidate as liberal as McCain that has won the primary in the last 100 years? There is already strong evidence that suggests that a lot of Dems will vote for McCain already. BHO is not as liked as the media portrays him to be.

[Jelanen]

Welp, perhaps circumstances are right for the strategy to encounter success. Normally you don't slide to far to the left for fear of losing your right base, but since the right base either hates McCain and won't vote for him or hates McCain, but hates Democrats more and will vote for him, hes got nothing to lose by going left.

I'll continue to stick to my principles and refuse to vote for McCain.

[ChamberedRound]

Originally Posted by Jelanen

Welp, perhaps circumstances are right for the strategy to encounter success. Normally you don't slide to far to the left for fear of losing your right base, but since the right base either hates McCain and won't vote for him or hates McCain, but hates Democrats more and will vote for him, hes got nothing to lose by going left.

Interesting point, and one I admit I hadn't thought of. Even the conservative base will vote for McCain over Obama. The one problem with the strategy is that it assumes the conservative base votes for someone. It's quite possible that, given the choices, they just stay home and don't vote at all. He definitely runs the risk of alienation with his strategy.

[PocketProtector]

Not voting for McCain and risking putting Obama in office would be a disaster. While McCain is certainly not even close to the ideal candidate, Obama is arguably the WORST of the WORST. Too many reasons to mention here, however a good start would be our beloved gun rights. A second would be our paychecks, I for one am tired of seeing mine shrink, and shrink it will with this Socialist radical.
Of course if you're on the entitlement train he will make you happy, nothing like having someone else's money to spend.
While not having a worthy candidate is repulsive to most of us, McCain is really irrelevant, this election pure and simply is Obama or no Obama. For me the choice is simple.

[awkx]

Originally Posted by sjl127

Sen. John McCain praised Mayor Bloomberg yesterday - talking up Hizzoner as a strong candidate for governor and refusing to rule him out as a vice presidential candidate.

If McCain actually picks Bloomberg, a rabid anti-gunner, then I'll definitely be voting for the Libertarian candidate in November.

[bendor1906]

Originally Posted by ChamberedRound

Interesting point, and one I admit I hadn't thought of. Even the conservative base will vote for McCain over Obama. The one problem with the strategy is that it assumes the conservative base votes for someone. It's quite possible that, given the choices, they just stay home and don't vote at all. He definitely runs the risk of alienation with his strategy.

That's what it boils down to...vote for what you think is the lesser of two evils or protest your choices by not voting. Sometimes not voting--or voting for a third choice if you're thinking about Paul--is really a vote for the other side. You don't like McCain so you'll stay home, or vote for Ron Paul? I have Democrat friends who think that is the ONLY chance that Obama has to win. Look at the states he won in the primaries...his popularity is definitely overblown. If McCain chooses someone from the mountain states as a VP to prevent a Democratic breakthrough there, he waltzes in to the White House. Go to realclear.com and check out the state-by-state polls---it's McCain's election to lose. One last word: if you think McCain is too liberal, what do you think Obama is? The former is a conservative maverick who sometimes, sometimes, goes against his party--like real leaders are supposed to do--the other is a textbook liberal.