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Default Re: No protection from being sued for reporting suspicious behavior

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but there's still an avenue of pursuit to rectify the issue.
yes, but, if you completely take away the civil avenue of pursuit and rely only on the criminal avenue of pursuit, your only remaining avenue of pursuit relies on the government to prosecute itself. that generally only happens if doing so happens to fit in with the agenda of at least one of the government officials (LEOs, DAs, and judges) involved.

if they are all anti...and you cannot pursue the matter in civil court...you are SOL.
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Default Re: No protection from being sued for reporting suspicious behavior

I'm with LTR on this one. I really don't like this idea.

Rarely are people sued for reporting something like this.

What if you get shot, because someone makes a "man with gun" call?
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yes, but, if you completely take away the civil avenue of pursuit and rely only on the criminal avenue of pursuit, your only remaining avenue of pursuit relies on the government to prosecute itself. that generally only happens if doing so happens to fit in with the agenda of at least one of the government officials (LEOs, DAs, and judges) involved.

if they are all anti...and you cannot pursue the matter in civil court...you are SOL.


Not disagreeing with you at all, whether or not the avenue is valid or of any real use to the common person isn't my point, only that it's there, and that's why people will support this one...just like a lot of other laws (DV laws, Mental health laws etc...). It's crap, but that's what people are gonna think when they read about it...they won't see the potential for abuse. I agree it's there in some fashion, but we're really just guessing as to the capacity for abuse that actually exists.
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Default Re: No protection from being sued for reporting suspicious behavior

Lets say you've got a tan going this week and your local pharmacy reports you when you go get photos of yourself at the range developed, now you get fired for missing work because you were in FBI interrogation all of Tuesday. do you want them to be immune from a lawsuit?
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Lets say you've got a tan going this week and your local pharmacy reports you when you go get photos of yourself at the range developed, now you get fired for missing work because you were in FBI interrogation all of Tuesday. do you want them to be immune from a lawsuit?
...but our own federal government instructs us:

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Report any suspected criminal or terrorist activity to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).Report suspected immigration or customs violations to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
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Default Re: No protection from being sued for reporting suspicious behavior

As I see it the probelem is not that you will lose the case, assuming it was a reasonable call, but that you are out so much money if you lose. The solution for any frivilous lawsuite, not just the Imams, is to make the loser pay the court costs of the winner.
Also, raise the requirement for a guilty verdict to "beyond reasonable doubt".
You can guess I am no lawyer.
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