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Default Brady Bunch defines an Assault Weapon

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Q: What is the difference between semi-automatic hunting rifles and semi-automatic assault weapons?

A: Sporting rifles and assault weapons are two distinct classes of firearms. While semi-automatic hunting rifles are designed to be fired from the shoulder and depend upon the accuracy of a precisely aimed projectile, semi-automatic assault weapons are designed to maximize lethal effects through a rapid rate of fire. Assault weapons are designed to be spray-fired from the hip, and because of their design, a shooter can maintain control of the weapon even while firing many rounds in rapid succession.

Opponents of the ban argue that such weapons only "look scary." However, because they were designed for military purposes, assault weapons are equipped with combat hardware, such as silencers, folding stocks and bayonets, which are not found on sporting guns. Assault weapons are also designed for rapid-fire and many come equipped with large ammunition magazines allowing 50 more bullets to be fired without reloading. So there is a good reason why these features on high-powered weapons should frighten the public.

Assault weapons are commonly equipped with some or all of the following combat features:

  • A large-capacity ammunition magazine, enabling the shooter to continuously fire dozens of rounds without reloading. Standard hunting rifles are usually equipped with no more than 3 or 4-shot magazines.
  • A folding stock on a rifle or shotgun, which sacrifices accuracy for concealability and for mobility in close combat.
  • A pistol grip on a rifle or shotgun, which facilitates firing from the hip [I mean who doesn't?], allowing the shooter to spray-fire the weapon. A pistol grip also helps the shooter stabilize the firearm during rapid fire and makes it easier to shoot assault rifles one-handed.
  • A barrel shroud, which is designed to cool the barrel so the firearm can shoot many rounds in rapid succession without overheating. It also allows the shooter to grasp the barrel area to stabilize the weapon, without incurring serious burns, during rapid fire.
  • A threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor, which serves no useful sporting purpose. The flash suppressor allows the shooter to remain concealed when shooting at night, an advantage in combat but unnecessary for hunting or sporting purposes. In addition, the flash suppressor is useful for providing stability during rapid fire, helping the shooter maintain control of the firearm.
  • A threaded barrel designed to accommodate a silencer, which is useful to assassins but clearly has no purpose for sportsmen. Silencers are illegal [Oops, better throw mine out] so there is no legitimate purpose for making it possible to put a silencer on a weapon.
  • A barrel mount designed to accommodate a bayonet, which obviously serves no sporting purpose.
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Default Re: Brady Bunch defines an Assault Weapon

BUT BUT BUT

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Q: Does the law ban all semi-automatic guns? Does it affect hunting rifles and shotguns?

A: No. The definition of an assault weapon is tightly drawn.

lol







ugggggggggh. That site makes me sick.

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Q: What have the courts said about the federal assault weapons ban?

A: The law has been challenged in court by the extremist gun lobby,
Yep. I must be an extremist.
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Default Re: Brady Bunch defines an Assault Weapon

The problem is this. Much like a Lamborghini Diablo, a Ferrari F-40, hell, a CBR 929RR "crotch rocket", the firearms that we want, don't really NEED to serve a sporting purpose. We want them and should be allowed to have them unless we use them against society in a fashion that is dangerous to others. What legal driving purpose do the vehicles mentioned above have? Sure, you can ride the CBR at 35MPH on the winding country road, but that is NOT what it was made to do, or "what it's intended purpose is". Why not ban all of these vehicles? Until I do something wrong, my AR, AK, Mini 14, M1 Carbine, etc.... are sporting rifles, because no matter what the stocks look like, or how many rounds the mag holds, THEY ARE sporting rifles because to me, it IS sporting to target shoot.
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Default Re: Brady Bunch defines an Assault Weapon

I am sick and tired of these guys, trying to criminalize us.

Why does it always have to be an uphill battle to have our rights left alone?

1st amendment - under attack.

2nd, also.

4th, also.

5th, also.

6th, also.
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High-powered, eh? Haven't they realized that many sporting rifles are much more "high-powered" than average 'assualt weapon' calibers? And what is this "assualt weapon" they speak of? Not really a firm definition of any firearm that I've seen. I guess I could find a select fire SBR that matches the Brady Bunch definition of a sporting rifle, so I'm okay.

The real danger is that so many people read that bs and it's their first introduction to any type of firearms knowledge...
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The problem is this. Much like a Lamborghini Diablo, a Ferrari F-40, hell, a CBR 929RR "crotch rocket", the firearms that we want, don't really NEED to serve a sporting purpose. We want them and should be allowed to have them unless we use them against society in a fashion that is dangerous to others. What legal driving purpose do the vehicles mentioned above have? Sure, you can ride the CBR at 35MPH on the winding country road, but that is NOT what it was made to do, or "what it's intended purpose is". Why not ban all of these vehicles? Until I do something wrong, my AR, AK, Mini 14, M1 Carbine, etc.... are sporting rifles, because no matter what the stocks look like, or how many rounds the mag holds, THEY ARE sporting rifles because to me, it IS sporting to target shoot.
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It's called a hobby though also, and just like many other hobbies, people COLLECT them. You don't even need to use them at all. Having them is enough . I don't shoot half of my guns. I just want them, and that's all the reason that I need.


What kind of stamp collector licks the back of the stamp and sticks it on the envelope? What kind of coin collector throws his misprinted quarter in to the soda machine? What kind of car collector takes their 66 Ferrari GTB out for a cruise around the track?

So while to you they might be sporting rifles, to me, it's something that I just want to collect. At either rate, were on the same page. As long as we aren't doing anything illegal, it's complete BS that people even want to ban them.
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Just wait till these morons get a hold of the country. God Help us.

if it is this bad without them in control can you imagine what we are in for?
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I will be ok with an assault weapons ban under one condition. They make every car that goes over 70mph illegal as well, I mean people out run the cops all the time.. we don't need these "super race cars" that go 70+ mph. having a car like that is just inviting people to speed and crash into someone else. Clearly there is no point in having a car that goes over 85. and besides if you let these criminals have "super race cars" that go 70+ mph they will most likely out run cops and the cops will have to endanger every ones life. The super race cars that go 70+mph where clearly designed for only race track use and should not be so easily obtainable for criminals. I mean they could rob a bank and out run the cops.
Most criminals obsess over these super elite cars because of how fast they are. You can tell a super race car from the rest easily.

1. they usually have aluminum rims. These rims are made super light to lower the overall weight of the vehicle, allowing the super race car superior speeds. clearly people don't need aluminum rims, they serve no purpose on non race cars.

2. They are sometimes fitted with superchargers. The supercharger is even more desirable because it can increase the output of the engine and thus making a super race car a SUPER DUPER racer car. Clearly there is no logical purpose of a supercharger.

3. These super race cars are sometimes fitted with rear wings and front spoilers. These serve the purpose of not just making the car look ultra cool, they help the aerodynamics of the car. as the wind passes over the rear wing is puts pressure on the wheels called down-force, it is made to stabilise the super race car under super fast speeds allowing the car to stay on the road and keep grip to the tires. Again these are not needed.

4. Super race cars usually have duel exhaust, We really don't know why this is but it really is scary to look at the duel exhaust as the super car is pulling away from the cops.

5. Super race cars are a lot lower to the ground, this again helps aerodynamics, forcing most of the air to go over the top of the car and hit the rear wing giving more down-force.

6. super race cars usually have 1000hp, this is totally unnecessary. making there top speed in excess of 85 mph, making it much more difficult to pull them over during a traffic stop, just to make sure the person driving is not a criminal.

7. And finally these super race cars are so Cheap that any criminal can get them. They are everywhere you look, out running the cops left and right. Some of them are as cheap as your Mitsubishi evolution, that is a scary thought, having a car that fast as cheap as an evolution.

Clearly these type of cars are a menace to our civilised world. It makes the cops job much harder.
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I will be ok with an assault weapons ban under one condition. They make every car that goes over 70mph illegal as well, I mean people out run the cops all the time.. we don't need these "super race cars" that go 70+ mph. having a car like that is just inviting people to speed and crash into someone else. Clearly there is no point in having a car that goes over 85. and besides if you let these criminals have "super race cars" that go 70+ mph they will most likely out run cops and the cops will have to endanger every ones life. The super race cars that go 70+mph where clearly designed for only race track use and should not be so easily obtainable for criminals. I mean they could rob a bank and out run the cops.
Most criminals obsess over these super elite cars because of how fast they are. You can tell a super race car from the rest easily.

1. they usually have aluminum rims. These rims are made super light to lower the overall weight of the vehicle, allowing the super race car superior speeds. clearly people don't need aluminum rims, they serve no purpose on non race cars.

2. They are sometimes fitted with superchargers. The supercharger is even more desirable because it can increase the output of the engine and thus making a super race car a SUPER DUPER racer car. Clearly there is no logical purpose of a supercharger.

3. These super race cars are sometimes fitted with rear wings and front spoilers. These serve the purpose of not just making the car look ultra cool, they help the aerodynamics of the car. as the wind passes over the rear wing is puts pressure on the wheels called down-force, it is made to stabilise the super race car under super fast speeds allowing the car to stay on the road and keep grip to the tires. Again these are not needed.

4. Super race cars usually have duel exhaust, We really don't know why this is but it really is scary to look at the duel exhaust as the super car is pulling away from the cops.

5. Super race cars are a lot lower to the ground, this again helps aerodynamics, forcing most of the air to go over the top of the car and hit the rear wing giving more down-force.

6. super race cars usually have 1000hp, this is totally unnecessary. making there top speed in excess of 85 mph, making it much more difficult to pull them over during a traffic stop, just to make sure the person driving is not a criminal.

7. And finally these super race cars are so Cheap that any criminal can get them. They are everywhere you look, out running the cops left and right. Some of them are as cheap as your Mitsubishi evolution, that is a scary thought, having a car that fast as cheap as an evolution.

Clearly these type of cars are a menace to our civilised world. It makes the cops job much harder.
Ya know, I think you're on to something here.
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Oh for God's sake don't give politicians idea's.


The real reason for the Assault Weapon Ban is to start the slide down to baning all guns. Didn't California try to redefine Assault Weapons as "any gun that can fire more than one shot without reloading".
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