So I was talking to a local cop

[GunLawyer001]

Originally Posted by justashooter

"modifications which permit a weapon to fire automatically more than one shot with a single function of the trigger" does not describe the poor man's machine gun rubber band trick.

I checked out a vid, here:
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=23476

ATF would take the position that you've altered the trigger, because, well, you've altered the trigger. Although I disagree with the Akins Accelerator ruling, this is essentially indistinguishable from Akins. Both of them keep the FCG intact, and just alter how recoil affects the trigger function. The Akins unit let the entire receiver recoil within a frame and made the trigger slap your finger, the rubber band trick here lets the trigger reset and slap against your finger. Without the conscious individual trigger pulls, the rubber band is only as legal as the Akins Accelerator.

Whether it's a string, rubber band, or crank device on a motor, if you add parts you run the risk of ATF crushing all the fun out of your world.

[bogey1]

bump firing is still legal correct?

[GunLawyer001]

Originally Posted by bogey1

bump firing is still legal correct?

You'll need a ouija board to know the mind of ATF, but if you don't add any parts or devices to speed up the rate of fire, then I don't see how ATF could possibly make the case that you had a machinegun, or a conversion device, or a collection of parts that made a conversion kit.

Unless they want to staple an "Exhibit A" label to your belly.....

[Robert Kayland]

Originally Posted by GunLawyer001

Unless they want to staple an "Exhibit A" label to your belly.....

For the record, that would be Exhibit B... Exhibit A is the on the other side.

[dc dalton]

Originally Posted by Robert Kayland

For the record, that would be Exhibit B... Exhibit A is the on the other side.

Ouch, that's gonna hurt in the morning

[GunLawyer001]

Originally Posted by Robert Kayland

For the record, that would be Exhibit B... Exhibit A is the on the other side.

In that case, you're bump-firing with a novel and disquieting technique.

[Robert Kayland]

Originally Posted by GunLawyer001

In that case, you're bump-firing with a novel and disquieting technique.

People talk that way all the time, why not also shoot that way?

/Actually, I was just going by the letter nomenclature originally, and didn't think of the physical ramifications.

[Hawk]

Where are some of you planning on trying bump-firing? Most ranges I know of prohibit such reckless behavior. If I ever saw someone bump-firing at our club (PMSC), I'd tell them to pack up and go home and report them to the club's officers. There is no excuse for unsafe gun handling.

[Steveindajeep]

Or better yet the Chief's wife hahaha

Originally Posted by Damage control

You should have asked him how the chief was doing.


DC

EDIT: I just looked I allways thought you were from Dickson city...SOOOO SORRY!

[bogey1]

Originally Posted by Hawk

Where are some of you planning on trying bump-firing? Most ranges I know of prohibit such reckless behavior. If I ever saw someone bump-firing at our club (PMSC), I'd tell them to pack up and go home and report them to the club's officers. There is no excuse for unsafe gun handling.

private property. then when you get good enough to control and group like the guy in gunlawyers video, then you can take it to the range. i personally dont see any problem with that. my .02