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Default Utah's concealed-weapon licenses are no longer easy to acquire abroad

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Default Re: Utah's concealed-weapon licenses are no longer easy to acquire abroad

I have no problem with that.
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Default Re: Utah's concealed-weapon licenses are no longer easy to acquire abroad

I'm kinda mixed on it..

I believe its a sentient right to keep and bear arms no matter what the nationality is or what land you are in. However without access to a good database of criminal/mental records in a foreign land - concealed carry should be offlimits. !But open carry no matter the nationality should be legal without any restrictions(other than felony/mental).
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Default Re: Utah's concealed-weapon licenses are no longer easy to acquire abroad

Are any of these nonresident foreigners actually causing problems?

If not, then what's the big fucking emergency?
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Default Re: Utah's concealed-weapon licenses are no longer easy to acquire abroad

Like MarcS said are they causing problems?

This is stupid, I wonder if they can get a criminal check print out from their country and send it in?
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Default Re: Utah's concealed-weapon licenses are no longer easy to acquire abroad

Given the low numbers and that these are western countries, many of these people are probably bodyguards getting permits to carry while they protect their clients.
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Given the low numbers and that these are western countries, many of these people are probably bodyguards getting permits to carry while they protect their clients.
I'm inclined to think the same. Maybe a few sportsmen or firearm enthusiasts like us.
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Default Re: Utah's concealed-weapon licenses are no longer easy to acquire abroad

Its bad enough that foreigners can get a drivers license in this country, now some people actually think it's a good idea for them to be legally armed? Isn't that special. I guess next they should be allowed to vote too so they can help us elect the next president.
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Its bad enough that foreigners can get a drivers license in this country, now some people actually think it's a good idea for them to be legally armed? Isn't that special. I guess next they should be allowed to vote too so they can help us elect the next president.
Its not the one here lawfully that are causing the problems, its the ones that are here illegally. Don't confuse the two. The ones that go through the legal steps to get licenses(CCW or driver) generally are average Joe's who do pay taxes here and abide by the laws. They've filled out the proper paperwork to be here, gone through the red tape.

Even right now the state of Indiana accepts all licenses from any country. A Saudi Arabian carry permit is absolutely good in IN, however there aren't any terrorists shooting up the place.

The ones you need to be concerned about are the fence jumpers, those who over extend their visa's, etc.. In other words, the illegals.
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