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Default Re: WB's top LEO thinks the OC law should be revisited

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So where do we send the letters to let our opinions be known on the subject of OC?
Perhaps to the listed e-mail address for the author of the article? (included in the OP)
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Perhaps to the listed e-mail address for the author of the article? (included in the OP)
Well yeah, That one's a gimme. What I should have asked is who would the chief talk to in order to push his agenda along? Who is next in the chain-of-command? The mayor? Or is there someone between the two?

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Well yeah, That one's a gimme. What I should have asked is who would the chief talk to in order to push his agenda along? Who is next in the chain-of-command? The mayor? Or is there someone between the two?

Sorry for the confusion but I promise it won't take me long to get the hang of this.
Despite their distaste for OC, W-B police and city officials are powerless to set any new policy themselves. Only the legislature can regulate the "ownership, possession, transfer or transportation of firearms". Whether your goal is to strengthen or tear down the rights of gun owners, the legislature is the place to do it.
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Default Re: WB's top LEO thinks the OC law should be revisited

Translation: "I supported OC until someone actually did it"


Another problem with the chief's comments... If he knew OC was legal, why were his officers 1) telling mystery_man it was not legal. 2) threatening mystery_man verbally and physically 3) detaining him 4) confiscating his firearm 5) refusing to give him the incident report? 6) Why were his officers giving me dirty looks hateful stares when I accompanied mystery_man when he picked up his gun they illegally confiscated?


???

As for the "causing discomfort" statement. The only thing that proves is that he knows virtually nothing about what really happened in Dickson City. No, chief, the only people "uncomfortable" with OC are the ones doing it when they are illegally harassed by LEOs.

He's also jumped on the bandwagon of accusing people who OC of doing something "wrong".

Sorry, Chief Dessoye. Many of us have been OC'ing for years with nary a problem save until some over zealous LEO in Dicksn City and Wilkes-Barre decided to push their authority beyond the scope of the law.

Since some people are "uncomfortable" seeing black people shouldn't the chief be lobbying for a law against that too?


I think I'm going to fwd this article to Sue Henry and tell her I would gladly debate Chief Dessoye on the air if she cares to set it up.
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Here's the link:

http://www.citizensvoice.com/article...813799_loc.txt

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Tough. Shit.

LEOs like that cause me discomfort. Lets revisit his employment status with the WBPD.
That about sums it up for me!
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good luck revisiting the PA declaration of rights, there chief.

oh, and anything that requires a license is, by definition, not legally considered a right...so, really, the chief supports the privelege of most people to bear arms but does not support the right of anyone to bear arms.
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1. I wonder which "open carry law" he's referring to?

I don't think he means this:



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Default Re: WB's top LEO thinks the OC law should be revisited

"I am also a realist. The general public is uncomfortable seeing people with a gun strapped to their hip in public," he said.

This is just a old go to saying. Like the one used at the dc town meeting. It is against the community standard.
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Default Re: WB's top LEO thinks the OC law should be revisited

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Translation: "I supported OC until someone actually did it"


Another problem with the chief's comments... If he knew OC was legal, why were his officers 1) telling mystery_man it was not legal. 2) threatening mystery_man verbally and physically 3) detaining him 4) confiscating his firearm 5) refusing to give him the incident report? 6) Why were his officers giving me dirty looks hateful stares when I accompanied mystery_man when he picked up his gun they illegally confiscated?


???

As for the "causing discomfort" statement. The only thing that proves is that he knows virtually nothing about what really happened in Dickson City. No, chief, the only people "uncomfortable" with OC are the ones doing it when they are illegally harassed by LEOs.

He's also jumped on the bandwagon of accusing people who OC of doing something "wrong".

Sorry, Chief Dessoye. Many of us have been OC'ing for years with nary a problem save until some over zealous LEO in Dicksn City and Wilkes-Barre decided to push their authority beyond the scope of the law.

Since some people are "uncomfortable" seeing black people shouldn't the chief be lobbying for a law against that too?


I think I'm going to fwd this article to Sue Henry and tell her I would gladly debate Chief Dessoye on the air if she cares to set it up.
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