Pa. Patriot ARRESTED at the OC dinner @ The Old Country Buffet in Dickson City 5/9

[ALS]

They are refusing to release the tapes. Hummm I would say that the person that call must have blown the whole situation out of the proportion or flat out lied about what was going on. Because if it is found that the caller lied this could get very ugly in any potential future lawsuit. The police Department to cover the butts would then have to charge the caller for making a call to 911 under false pretenses. That would make people wary of calling 911 in the future when they perceived a problem. If they were wrong they could open themselves up to a lawsuit.
Example The six Imams playing games before they got on that flight in Chicago. They and CAIR were demanding the names of the people that complained so they could sue them in future discrimination lawsuits.

[pghplr]

Originally Posted by Cougar8045

More follow up on the news.

Staback: Respect gun law
BY CHARLES SCHILLINGER
STAFF WRITER
05/17/2008


“It’s the law today. ... And it’s been that way forever in the state and has not been a problem to date,” Mr. Staback said. “But I think if it was me personally, and I needed to carry a gun, I think I would apply for a concealed-weapon permit.”

I think this is one of our biggest problems. The usage of the "concealed weapons permit". When used, it give people who don't know better the oppertunity to inject that little phrase into their arguements.
Although Mr Starback seems to be a very strong supporter for our rights, its important to make people understand that a LTCF is just that. It's not a permit to allow a mode of carry.

[stephpd]

I'm pretty sure the lawyers for PaPatriot will be able to get a copy of the 911 calls. Just don't expect them and other evidence to be in the public domain until all this is straighted out. Showing your cards is never a good thing. Lawyers always tell you to keep quiet. Talking about something makes their job harder.

Not only that but I thought I saw where the manager had called 911 back to cancel the complaint. If the officer knew this could have been resolved by just talking to the managers. No need to make a scene.

[TaePo]

What about the second near incident on 5-11-08?

Anyone have info on that and can we foia the call and the cancellation call?

It was the second call of an armed person according to the logs posted earlier.

I am curious if it was similar. A news organization had a snippet (dare I say clip!) of (one of?) the original call(s) regarding the oc dinner party on 5-09-08.

The 5-11-08 call is not involved in the original case so should be available.

[Damage control]

Originally Posted by PeteG

And what would be "way right of center"?

Utopia .........

[Ithaca1937]

Originally Posted by Cougar8045

More follow up on the news.

Staback: Respect gun law
BY CHARLES SCHILLINGER
STAFF WRITER
05/17/2008

<snip>

Facts surrounding the incident are still unclear, and a Dickson City police incident report will not be available until next week. Lackawanna County officials have declined to release the 911 tapes that led to the incident.

<snip>


http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site...dept_id=415898

Originally Posted by TaePo

What about the second near incident on 5-11-08?

Anyone have info on that and can we foia the call and the cancellation call?

It was the second call of an armed person according to the logs posted earlier.

I am curious if it was similar. A news organization had a snippet (dare I say clip!) of (one of?) the original call(s) regarding the oc dinner party on 5-09-08.

The 5-11-08 call is not involved in the original case so should be available.

The WBRE news station played the short audio clip of the supposed manager's, of the Old Country Buffet, call to the police. If the Lackawanna County officials have declined to release the 911 tapes, where did WBRE get the clip? I'm thinking that since our members that were involved say the manager that day was female and the 911 tapes haven't been released, then that wasn't the manager of the Old Country Buffet. I'm also thinking that WBRE must have recorded that off of a scanner and that is the voice heard is of the dispatcher relaying the message of the call to the police.

[Keith4001r]

[quote=stephpd;306304]
Habeaus corpus, right to a lawyer, speedy trial, torture. Look up gitmo.

Whoa, hold on. These rights apply to citizens, not POWs. Just clearing that up.

[jb12string]

Originally Posted by Keith4001r

Whoa, hold on. These rights apply to citizens, not POWs. Just clearing that up.

thank you!!

[stephpd]

[quote=Keith4001r;306422]

Originally Posted by stephpd

Habeaus corpus, right to a lawyer, speedy trial, torture. Look up gitmo.

Whoa, hold on. These rights apply to citizens, not POWs. Just clearing that up.

Are you positive that nobody there isn't a citizen? And they can't be POW's because the Geneva Conventions would apply. Enemy combatants. Could be domestic.Hard to know since few are allowed in to check things out.

Granted, gitmo may have some really bad guys that might have some intent to do harm. But I've also read where some foreigners were released and no charges filed. Some claiming they were tortured.

The problem is the disregard of law and a government that feels it can just change the laws.

My bad, way off track for this thread. Delete if you will. Now back to our regularly scheduled program. Sorry!

[matt33]

They are considered “enemy combatants”. Uniformed soldiers representing a national military get Geneva protections. Insurgents and terrorists are afforded no such privilege under international law as they are not "soldiers".