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Old December 30th, 2007
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Default Question - OC & asked to leave but Instead I offer to CC.....

While driving around this evening....I thought of this scenario...

Lets just say I'm OC'ing and I enter saaaaaay....a Subway (I saw the other thread) and the jerkoff manager say's....



"I'm sorry Sir, but Subway doesn't allow those dangerous gun thingies! I am goung to have to ask you to leave."

Okaaaaay. So I politely comply and walk directly out of the sub shop. I untuck my shirt and ensure that my CZ-75BD is well concealed and I reenter th store.

Now....the same brainiac is at the counter. What are his legal rights? He cannot ask me if I'm carrying, right? Does he have a right to not serve me....though I am perfectly calm and rational?
Or am I just stirring up trouble???


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Default Re: Question - OC & asked to leave but Instead I offer to CC.....

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Now....the same brainiac is at the counter. What are his legal rights? He cannot ask me if I'm carrying, right?
He can ask, I'm not certain that you are compelled to be honest with him.

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Does he have a right to not serve me....though I am perfectly calm and rational?
Refer to the Sticky "READ FIRST" in the Concealed and Open Carry sub forum- I think this sums it up..

"2. Malls, stores, movie theaters, restaurants, bars, etc are private property - they may ask you to leave if you are carrying a firearm, or the may ask you to leave if you aren't carrying a gun, they may ask you to leave because you weren't wearing a pink tutu with a tactical thigh holster, they may ask you to leave for ANY reason and you must comply."

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Gary, while I understand that it is not your question, may I comment that it is probably best not to support the business by giving them your money. If they don't care about peoples rights then stick it to their wallet.
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Does he have a right to not serve me....though I am perfectly calm and rational?
He can do whatever the hell he wants to! LOL!
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I understand that it is private property, BUT, how is it any different than the dude at the cheesteak place in Philly putting up a sign that says order in English? Sign that says no guns, sign that says order in English? I am behind both stores on this issue, but, why isn't everyone going crazy in front of subway?????????? I didn't read about it in the news, or see it on CNN either. Hmmmmmm?
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I understand that it is private property, BUT, how is it any different than the dude at the cheesteak place in Philly putting up a sign that says order in English? Sign that says no guns, sign that says order in English? I am behind both stores on this issue, but, why isn't everyone going crazy in front of subway?????????? I didn't read about it in the news, or see it on CNN either. Hmmmmmm?
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I understand that it is private property, BUT, how is it any different than the dude at the cheesteak place in Philly putting up a sign that says order in English? Sign that says no guns, sign that says order in English? I am behind both stores on this issue, but, why isn't everyone going crazy in front of subway?????????? I didn't read about it in the news, or see it on CNN either. Hmmmmmm?
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Individual citizens who have issues with these stated business practices should exercise their 1st amendment right to free speech--- conduct protest rallies, letter writing campaigns, and contact those 2a friendly media outlets to give wider public exposure to the unfairness of such business practices.

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You're not allowed in my home if you're not carrying a gun - How's that for discrimination?
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...wearing a pink tutu with a tactical thigh holster...

Probably
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